casey Posted August 17, 2006 Report Posted August 17, 2006 ohk this is a very random idea that came to mind, could i rig up a tank of compresed air and have say a regulater by my side and have a pipe going into the manifold to push amounts of air into the engine? I'm only a kid so don't bag me and tell me the reasons you could/couldn't rig this up thanks casey Quote
Fayt Posted August 17, 2006 Report Posted August 17, 2006 wouldnt work unless you had fuel going with it, would just make the engine lean out and possibly fail alltogether, if you did it with a fuel injected engine and if the injectors were large enough they might compensate the extra air but why would you bother? if you wanna force more air into an engine get a turbocharger... Quote
irokin Posted August 17, 2006 Report Posted August 17, 2006 Volume is the problem. An engine consumes massive amouts of air...far more than your tank could hold (unless it was a few hundred litres). About 150 cubic feet per minute PER 100hp is what you'll need aka turbo/supercharger... Quote
7shades Posted August 17, 2006 Report Posted August 17, 2006 So... what if you were using liquid oxygen... Quote
Fayt Posted August 17, 2006 Report Posted August 17, 2006 liquid oxygen is still oxygen, the more oxygen you put in an engine, the more fuel you'd have to mix it with, so would just make engine run lean Quote
irokin Posted August 17, 2006 Report Posted August 17, 2006 liquid oxygen is still oxygen, the more oxygen you put in an engine, the more fuel you'd have to mix it with, so would just make engine run lean And you lose the cooling effect of the nitrogen in the air. Thats why they use nitrous oxide instead of just oxygen. Quote
irokin Posted August 17, 2006 Report Posted August 17, 2006 yea i realise that now heheheh you could probably do it to a lawn mower just for shits and giggles. You'd need a whole 9CFM. "So what boost are you running on that Briggs and Stratton?" "Oh about 120 psi......" don't feel bad or anything....we all have crazy ideas....just ask Teddy :( *waves to Teddy* Quote
Redwarf Posted August 17, 2006 Report Posted August 17, 2006 I have a 95CFM scuba tank you can borrow.... :( Quote
Rolla__Boy Posted August 17, 2006 Report Posted August 17, 2006 You know what I like about this topic? He is thinking, and has the balls to ask people if it's a stupid idea or not, and if he keeps this attitude up, then one day he will come up with something cool. Keep on coming up with these crazy ideas mate, and never stop being creative, because nothing beats originality!!! Quote
Xany Posted August 17, 2006 Report Posted August 17, 2006 HERE HERE!.... all its takes is one little idea to grow mate.....keep it up....it keeps us thinking and on our toes...lol Quote
Rollin-Rolla Posted August 19, 2006 Report Posted August 19, 2006 as someone else mentioned, it could make the motor run lean. and obviously the huge problem with that is blowing shit up in the engine. even if you had larger injectors you still need the computer to control the amount of fuel going into motor. so you would end up having alot of problems. good thinking. if you wanted cheap thrills you could always install nitrous. the only thing with that though is youll need to always refill. nitrous isnt like what alot of people think it is, which is the misconception from fast and furious and gay movies like that. nitrous is pretty much a turbo without the lag. just depends how much horsepower nitrous kit you want. you could just get a standard motor and run it but it is similar to having a turbo on the car, and if you get too large of a nitrous kit you will blow something up. but no reason why you can't have 100 hp nitrous kit on any car. you wont need to change shit. internally wise and some people will think. Quote
chrisandliz[RL] Posted August 19, 2006 Report Posted August 19, 2006 And you lose the cooling effect of the nitrogen in the air. Thats why they use nitrous oxide instead of just oxygen. ok, well i have a diffrent toughts on that. when you burn gases with O2 you get these temps Acetylene 5590 F Propane 4580 F MAPP 5300 F Natural Gas 4600 F Hydrogen 4820 F and the melting point of steel is 2750°F so if you are to burn straght O2/ fuel get ready for a real BIG bang. p.s. my metal work teacher was always concerned about oil coming in contact with compress O2 , even bigger bang!!! it will spontanisly combust Quote
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