Gizzys Ke25 Rebuild No. 3

[Gizzys25]

Thought it about time I re did the old girl again.

Last time was over 20 years ago.

This time I'm going down a different path from last time.

Previously it was a fully worked 3k and 4 speed that was a real lot of fun. Embarrassed a few V8 Torana's in its day.

Now I want Reliability and simple auto driving.

And also passing on to my son once on his P's Later this year.

Also cleaning up the rust and fitting either a 4ac or 4AGE with a 3 speed auto.

 

Mods apart from that will include KE30 rear diff and AE71 Front brakes on KE30 Hubs.

+ Sigma GSR 14" Alloys.

Also going to try and fit air conditioning while I'm at it.

I have sourced a complete AE82 Seca for a donar car and an RWD 4ac with auto.

Here it is 20 years ago and where I'm trying to get back to.

Where I need to start from.

Rust spots.

The worst is the rear Qtr and under the battery tray.

 

Once this one is under way I'll get a start on the second one. Pics of that one to follow later once uncovered and out of the Garage, under 2 years of Junk.

I have a 15 year old son wanting a full on off road machine with a set of mud tyres and roof chop.

Need to convince him otherwise, but this one was a saved shell from a wreckers and suffered roof damage.

Best part is next to no rust.

Edited May 23, 2012 by Gizzys25

[Tally]

Youve got your work cut out for you thats for sure...

 

Good to see your saving another KE25 :)

[Gizzys25]

Not sure which one is going to be harder.

The yellow one with rust or the one with the damaged roof.

At least with the yellow one I have nearly all the parts.

The other one, well as they say, always on the look out.

[Gizzys25]

When a bit crazy with the sander and filler.

found a few more dents than I new about.

The roof turned out to be more of a mess than I thought.

Most likley a couple of days here.

then the drivers side rear quater has a few more low spots than i was aware of.

Looks like this side has seen major repairs in the past.

 

At least the drivers door should be easier.

Only appears to have the one dent.

 

And these are what I thought to be the easy areas.

Not looking forward to the actual major rust areas.

[Gizzys25]

Pictures say it all.

At least acces to the engine bay is easier now.

 

Next, replace the missing parts and paint.

 

Do I paint the bay GMH Black or Yellow to match the car??

 

Pros and Cons, Black Easy to patch up and hides the marks, hard to see in the bay as it will naturally be Dark as a result.

 

Yellow, Brighter and match the car, will need to be a better job in there as it will show up the flaws.

Planning on making the Grill, Nose Cones, Front and Rear vents, Door handles and possibly the bumpers all Black as well.

 

Ideas fellow Rolla's

[SLO-030]

Some black engine bays can look quite tacky. Depends what look your going after?

[Tally]

don't paint the front end trim all black, makes it look tacky, paint it the factory grey/silver

[Jono.C]

I wouldn't black the bumpers and handles if it were mine, Might look a bit manky on the yellow paint.

 

I vote black engine bay, I'm doing mine black just for the simplicity and it wont show out dirt and grease etc as much

[Gizzys25]

Looks like I'll be trying to tidy up the chromeware, the Black idea was to hide some rust spots.

I think there might be a couple of decent bars amounght all the ones I have.

 

The platsicware is still all black from last time, so i was just going to tidy it up and re fit, and paint any new replacment parts to match..

I thought it looked good, well that was 20 years ago when i did it.

 

To break up the black in the bay i guess I could paint the engine.

[Gizzys25]

Been a bit lax on the cars, and away on Scout Camp's so next to no progress.

But the replacement lower support pannel has arrived.

Now to get that front sorted.

 

Found the second one,

Well sort of.

Been lucky to locate some more bit for this one, so it may get started sooner than I thought.

Need to replace the doors(Currently KE20 ones, find a rear window and the rest of the insides.

Have Seats but nothing else.

[Gizzys25]

Been on more of a parts hunt of late.

Sourced a T50, another rolling shell for all the rust repair sections and roof I need and spare removable panels and a new dash top, second grill and set of trim for one I had. (thanks Modify for both) KE25 Sports Stearing Wheel for the second car (Thanks Raven) and a heap of other stuff that gets hidden once it all goes together.

Polished all the black paint off the badge(from the last respray) and re-fitted with the chrome trim and both grills look pretty good.

Now I've seen the black with Chrome I'll keep it like that on one car and grey/silver on the other.

 

I'll polish both sets of trims and repaint the black one before they are fitted back on the cars.

 

The roof on the yellow one is nearly sorted, so much for a couple of days work.

That rear qtr same.

 

Started on the other side and thankfully not as bad.

 

Parts left to get for both cars is now getting realy short.

The main one left is a set of 4AGE to Ke25 cross member engine mounts.

But no rush, till I replace the front chasis rail there is no way to fit the engine anyway.

 

+ a second set of wheels.

Toying with just getting another pair of Cresida rims, with the chrome trims and caps like on the back at the moment for the front.

But if something nice pops up then that can change.

[Gizzys25]

Spare parts

 

Apart from some serious rust in the drivers side pillar dosent look too bad. Still yet to go completely over it.

[Gizzys25]

Ok managed to get a closer look at the new spare parts car,

Roof, a few small dents.

Rear Qtrs, Perfect behind the wheel arch.

Doors, Repairable, but I have 2 rust free skins on the KE20 ones to make it easy.

Front Chasis Rail, Perfect.

Interior, Apart from missing Seats and carpet, Perfect door cards and trim pieces.

Bumpers realy good

Boot lid, Repairable.

Bonnet, Hopfully repairable, Have 3 now so might be able to do a cut and shut to make 1 from 2.

Full set of matching Locks.

Full set of Glass, (Windscreen scratched though, but should polish out.

Plus all badges and chrome trims and a brand new Dash Pad sitting ready to fit.

Down side, everything else is dented or rusted, so not realy a good restoration car, thus why a parts car.

 

 

Then I took a look at the roof of the blue one.

Don't think I'll try and save this. Lucky I have a spare now.

 

Cleaned up the 4AGE, this thing was black because the prior owner didn't replace any seals when replacing the timing belt and other parts I found looking very new under it all. (Inc a New Exceedy Clutch)

Complete gaskit kit for this before fitting.

Now to fit the RWD intake and manifold I have.

 

Here's a couple of snaps of all 3 together.

 

Now to get a panel beater to look over the 3 to be sure I'm fixing the right 2.

[Gizzys25]

Panel beater came over, went over the 3 cars, said it was a shame to cut up even one of them.

If i could get a chasis rail from another car all 3 are repairable. The toughest to fix will be the blue one's roof, but doable.

The big rust holes on the yellow ones are easier to deal with.

 

don't think I have the parts to build 3.

[Gizzys25]

Ok, started on the stearing wheels, the split one from Raven was actually pretty good compared to the one i had.

Some how forgot to take a pic of the inbetween stage showing all the filler and gluing i did to fix the splits.

But started with this and onothwer a lot worse.

Then filled and sanded, primed, sanded again

Sprayed black the first one, first coat. And got this.

 

The Second one needs a bit more sanding before it is painted.

 

Now to the change of plans.

The first plan was to chuck an engine with an auto and AC together and enjoy it and let my son when he turns 18 have full use of it till he gets his own car in reward for good grades.

The Second car work with my 15 year old and build a fun machine, 4AGE, T50, Coilovers etc.

 

Well the grades haven't proven worthy.

He's getting the spare parts car and everything he needs to build it up.

I'll assist but he needs to do the work.

My orginal one, now, 4AGE, T50, AC all the good bits and use the blue one for rust repair sections for both cars.

 

Good news is the 15 year old wants the same car as I do.

Plus it give me more time to get it working.

 

Watch this space to see what happens.