hannah82 Posted January 23, 2012 Report Posted January 23, 2012 Hey guys, I'm new to the forum, my name is Hannha, I'm not 'really' into cars, more like into keeping them maintained to prevent later damage and high repair bills :P I have a 'new' 99 AE101, that is in the urgend need of a fluid change and wheel swap. The thing is, I know how do that all, have done it before on several other cars, but I have never had so many problems finding the friggin' points for the jack stands! If anyone knows where they are please send a short reply, my fingers are itching to get this done, but I am too afraid to get under there without knowing that my jack stands (I use an hydraulic jack) are safe! Till know I've bought a Haynes manual (what a waste of money) and had a look by myself, but couldn't locate them 100%. I've taken some pictures maybe one of you could point some spots out for me! The Rolla: Front Jack point (bump) behind central towbar, RIGHT?: Rear Jack Point, the little bump behind the boot, 100% sure with this one: Front Jack Stand Point? Behind the front wheel? It feels a bit more solid there but not really sure: And I couldn't find any at the rear, bit weired as they are normally quite obvious! Thanks! HH82 Quote
7shades Posted January 23, 2012 Report Posted January 23, 2012 You've pretty much got it... On the sill panels (the bit you're pointing at) you put the scissor jack in between the two little cutout bits. There will be 4 of those, two on each side front and rear. As for the other two, DON'T use the scissor jack to try and lift the car from the middle, they're not rated for that much weight. You'll want a hydraulic floor/trolley jack... But yes you've got the jacking points right. Quote
hannah82 Posted January 23, 2012 Author Report Posted January 23, 2012 Thanks 7shades, I was already wondering if I am turning stupid, shouldn't be too hard to locate those points (normally). I don't use scissor jacks, don't trust them at all. lol. I have proper jack stands and an hydraulic jack, manufactured to whichever australian guide line, so I'm pretty keen on using them. So you reckon the stands can go into the same location as the scissor jacks? I might need to have another look and see if I can work it out now... Quote
madKE35coupe Posted January 23, 2012 Report Posted January 23, 2012 you should be able to put the stande in exactly the same place as where you jack it up with the scissor jack inbetween the grooves cut out on the sill. if you have a trolley jack they are alot easier :) but scissor jack will do. also make sure you jack the car up and put the stands up evenly ie do either one side or the other, or front or back.....do not be like some idiots i have seen and try and jack opposite corners of the car......it will more than likely end badly. make sure all the stands are secure on the sill too, last thing you want is a car coming down on top of you :) hope some or any of this helped? Quote
7shades Posted January 23, 2012 Report Posted January 23, 2012 Thanks 7shades, I was already wondering if I am turning stupid, shouldn't be too hard to locate those points (normally). I don't use scissor jacks, don't trust them at all. lol. I have proper jack stands and an hydraulic jack, manufactured to whichever australian guide line, so I'm pretty keen on using them. So you reckon the stands can go into the same location as the scissor jacks? I might need to have another look and see if I can work it out now... You're in no way stupid... Stupid is owning a car and not knowing how to change a flat tyre... (a LOT of people) So you're already doing better than most :P Quote
hannah82 Posted January 23, 2012 Author Report Posted January 23, 2012 haha. founf the grooves something like this: ---^----^---- right?, might need to get some wood and cut some grooves in it, as my jack stands are a liitle bit more 'c' or banana shaped without a groove :( I guess that's what you get for buying SCA haha. Quote
hannah82 Posted January 23, 2012 Author Report Posted January 23, 2012 Stuff the wood, I'll only jack up the front and put those stands under the front (suspension) crossmember. That should do the trick for an oil change. lol Quote
cuzzo Posted January 23, 2012 Report Posted January 23, 2012 (edited) You want to jack it up from the strongest point on the chassis or bolted to the chassis. Front the engine crossmember, rear the rear subframe. (sorry never looked under an ae101 before) don't use a hydraulic jack on the scissor jack jacking point, all you will do is fold over the sill. Hell most of the time i wont use a scissor jack on the sills ever. Hope that helps. Edited January 23, 2012 by cuzzo Quote
hannah82 Posted January 23, 2012 Author Report Posted January 23, 2012 (edited) Thanks cuzzo, that's what I am looking for on this rolla. This car is really testing my patients. I looked up the jack points haynes is using and my car doesn't have them! :bash: Anyway I uploaded a another picture, this should solve the mystery (I hope). I will delete the picture as soon as the problem is solved! So basically I can't find the engine crossmember, maybe there is none? Can I go onto the bar at the front? I believe it is the (front) support brace? edit: sorry I mean the front bar (going left to right) which is joined by the support brace at '7') Edited January 24, 2012 by hannah82 Quote
madKE35coupe Posted January 25, 2012 Report Posted January 25, 2012 i think the best place for you to jack and support the car will either be the sills where the grooves are cut out, as they are the factory jacking points....or directly under the chassis itself. if you start jacking the car up on relatively large flat areas the jack can slide around ie on the crossmember or lower control arms, which i know people who do and i hate it. if you are worried about it bending the sills get an old bike tube and fold it on the plate on the jack then jack it up.....? :/ Quote
ke70trent Posted February 6, 2012 Report Posted February 6, 2012 to jack front putt the hydrolic jack straight under the back of the tow mount in photo 2 tthen put the jack stands under the chassis (once jacked up look in behind the front wheels looking across the car there should be two rectangle shaped bits of metal running down the car bout 30cm in from the seal panel on each side)once the stands are under there pull your jack out of the way for easy quick oil change and to do the back put that jack under the bump seen in photo 3 (in the middle) then in photo 4 past where you are pointing in on the chassis put th jack stand in there! Quote
Subaru_kid Posted February 14, 2012 Report Posted February 14, 2012 You shouldnt need to jack it up with the stock 4x4 suspension that AE102's have lol I never did when i used to own one just crawl under on your back and youll be right! :) But yes, the jacking points you have are pretty much correct. Try looking for a service manual for the car at bursons, that should help you heaps :) Quote
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