BenH_Ke70 Posted October 28, 2011 Report Posted October 28, 2011 soo... i got some second hand king springs and monroe shocks off ebay... back ones went in no worries, nice drop fairly lower but still looks legal then onto the front, jacked her up, pulled the wheel, got the strut off after messing around with the brake line for ages, then i was like ohh how does this come apart... :hmm: proceeded with undoing the big nut on the top cap with stihlsins on the shock, cracked that got it off, then the spring was still on there, so started tapping it, BOOM! spring and tophat shot across the shed :lolcry: lucky didnt hit anything/anyone.. and yehh now i got that off the old stuffed shock is sitting in there and really doesn't look like it wants to come out, theres like two small holes on top of the shock and i have tried to unscrew it with pointy nosed pliers however it is taking forever and doesnt seem to be winding off... do i just keep at it orr is there some sort of tool or easier method to thiss?? The shocks are stuffed and oosing out oil really don't wanna put it back in like thiss... Quote
FOOMAN Posted October 28, 2011 Report Posted October 28, 2011 If all else fails.. angle grinders are your friend ;) 1 Quote
BenH_Ke70 Posted October 28, 2011 Author Report Posted October 28, 2011 just cut the top of the stut off ayy... hahah 1 Quote
Evan G Posted October 28, 2011 Report Posted October 28, 2011 next time undo the top shocker bolt when the car is on the ground. jack it up and it will fall apart. so much easier than removing/compressing. Quote
BenH_Ke70 Posted October 28, 2011 Author Report Posted October 28, 2011 yeh i got the big nut off, but the shockie wont budge.... Quote
Evan G Posted October 28, 2011 Report Posted October 28, 2011 the shock should just pull out, move your dress to the side and try again :P Quote
rian Posted October 28, 2011 Report Posted October 28, 2011 (edited) Go into Bunnings and get the biggest pair of these you can find: Then using them, grab the gland nut(the nut with the two holes in it holding the shock in) real tight and undo it. Hold the strut in a vice if possible. If that fails, use a hammer and chisel to hit a grove in the gland nut, then position the chisel on an angle in the grove and hit it as to force the gland nut to turn and undo. You'll need a vice for this one. If that doesn't work go back to Bunnings and buy a universal disc removal tool for an angle grinder. They are kind of a 'Y' shape tool with two little prongs on the end, and you can set the distance between the prongs. You may have to grind/file a bit off the inside of the 'Y' part so it clears the shock shaft when you're undoing the gland nut. Position the prongs in the two holes and see if you can undo it that way. I've done this a many times and it has worked until I bent the prongs. Looks like this: If that doesn't work grind the edges of the gland nut flat so you can get a BIG shifter on there. The new shocks should come with new gland nuts, and hopefully they will be the hex type so you can use a shifter to do them back up. You can also buy a gland nut wrench that looks like this: I have no idea where you would get one though, other than the internet. Edited October 28, 2011 by rianwest Quote
BenH_Ke70 Posted October 28, 2011 Author Report Posted October 28, 2011 ^^^^ i could of used those adjustable grinder things GREAT! well i got one out, put the shaft of shock in vice, jumped on stut repeatedly hahahaha, but the other one is a little trickier, I'm sure this thing doesn't have thread and is pressed in because i was spinninging at least 20 times around with pointy nosed pliers and it didnt come out at all, wasnt climbing the thread..???? but yeh getting a bit late for tools, will continue this tomorow Quote
rian Posted October 28, 2011 Report Posted October 28, 2011 Sorry I thought you were having trouble getting the gland nuts to turn. The inserts should just pull out once the gland nut is removed. That doesn't make any sense that the gland nut would turn but not travel up the threads. Although some gland nuts have a very fine thread, and so it would take a fair few turns to get them to come out. Quote
BenH_Ke70 Posted October 28, 2011 Author Report Posted October 28, 2011 yeh, i did get the gland nut to turn but thats not how i got the shock out, i gave up on turning it and just jumped on it in the vice... i will give it another shot tomorrow or get a bigger hammer for this job Quote
snot35 Posted October 28, 2011 Report Posted October 28, 2011 Yeah, that bit is held in with a rubber seal. It should come out easily enough though. Invert the shock over a bucket if you haven't already and cycle the shaft up and down, it should pump out oil. You'll get messy :) Once most has come out bolt the strut into a vice. Put the top hat and bolt back on, grab the hat, compress the shaft and then extend it with as much force as you're able too until it's fully extended. You should find that you're slowly able to hammer that seal out of the strut. If it's stuck fast you might need to think a little more about more force/leverage :) Quote
love ke70 Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 snots on the money, old school shocks built into the struts, not inserts Quote
rian Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 snots on the money, old school shocks built into the struts, not inserts I did not know that, they are replaced with inserts though aren't they? Quote
snot35 Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 You'll find that the stok shocks are effectively a twin tube design that use the strut as the outer tube. That top seal/bushing holder will have a tube attached to it that actually houses the piston. At the bottom of that tube is some valving. The top bushing holder has holes in it to get shock oil up to lubricate the gland nut, rather than for you to put a pin spanner in it :) Inserts are the go for anything. This design doesn't allow you to gas charge the damper, which is bad :) Quote
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