Calling Ke70 Wheel Gurus

[mellowyellowke70]

soo just got my set of those tpi 15x8s 0 offset in the mail...look f@$king sick will need to flare the f@$k outta the guards as they poke out of em by like a inch lol :P but they don't hit the struts or anything ,my problem is that the centre hub doesnt sit flush in the centre of the rim thus leaving all the weight on the studs ( which arnt too flush in the holes on the rim either, can i fix? and how? please help a brother out...is wheel spacers what I'm looking for? or something else ? any help much appriciated :) :) , have attached a detailed schematic on the problem if it helps :P :cool:

[BlueKsev]

Meh its what studs are for :)

You have the studs that taper in at the bottom like this? - \____/

That is what centres the wheel properly. They will jam in the little holes in the rim and locate the wheel where it should be

Standard ke steelies have a bit of rattle/play without the studs on its fine man

[Evan G]

the wheel nuts will pull it in and centralise it all dw.

[jimmy-d]

Now for a different opinion! I'm not overly familiar with how the standard ke70 wheels fit BUT the theory is that the load is carried on the hub and the studs are there to keep the wheel pulled in. Theoretically,as the rim is not centred on the load bearing hub it is able to move around and therefore break studs.Now,as I said,that is the theory but stacks of people fit wheels like yours every day and get away with it. Only other suggestion I could give is that you get a couple of collars machined up to take up the slack,have to be a tight pressure fit so they don't rattle out though!

[mellowyellowke70]

ahh k thought so , its just someone once told me that it needs to be flush around the centre hub or else all weight is on studs which is bad, cheers for helpin out a noob lads much appreciated will be using the stock ke70 wheel studs which do have the taper so should be smooth sailing fingers crossed, thanks again for the help :) free link to some dumb shit my mate showed me the other day http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BWTxyDV60E hahahahaha

[Evan G]

there called hubcentric rings, (spelling?) machine some up or get some measurements and go ebay hunting

[FOOMAN]

What even said, you can get rings that fill the gap.

Most tyre stores stock them. (Mine does)

[t18drifts]

:lolcry:

[snot35]

Those nut seats don't look tapered at all, so as everyone has said get some centering rings. I think just using tapered nuts wouldn't be a good idea as there doesn't look like there is a hell of a lot of seat.

[mellowyellowke70]

yeah there aint any seat in the stud holes at all, gonna have to take some measurements tonight and see what size we need , just had a quick look on ebay and theres plenty on there, as for fitting them well figure that out as we go, cheers lads :)

[Grand Master of Awesome]

AJPS make them to suit the Performance wheels they stock, so get some sizes and give Dave a call.

[BlueKsev]

Well i'm running non-tapered wheel nuts with a rim with a big hole in the centre that doesnt fit clean.

As for snapping studs because it doesnt fit flush on the hub goes i'll believe it when it happens.

Maybe it is safer with this hub-centric idea but i know plenty of standard cars without it.

[Redwarf]

Get shouldered nuts, bolt them on. Forget about them.

 

I don't think any set I ever had on the Dwarf fitted the hub as such. there was always play.

 

No issues in twenty years.

[philbey]

Derp galore

 

Now for a different opinion! I'm not overly familiar with how the standard ke70 wheels fit BUT the theory is that the load is carried on the hub and the studs are there to keep the wheel pulled in. Theoretically,as the rim is not centred on the load bearing hub it is able to move around and therefore break studs

 

many wrongs have occurred here. Studs don't take vertical load. Hubs don't take vertical load. Friction between surfaces takes the load, and the tensile force through the studs applies the friction.

 

The hub locates the wheel axially. You can use a ring to fill the gap, tyre joints sell as mentioned. Tapered nuts and shouldered nuts will also locate axially, but you need to have countersinks on your wheels to match the taper, or large holes for shoulders.

 

Many old small cars don't even have hub centric hubs on the rear

 

It's all common misconception even I thought wrongly in the past. I've changed now, I'm always right haha.

[Spencer[RL]]

Can I ask why these rims sit so weird? is it down to poor manufacturing or.. ?