rolla_j Posted June 15, 2011 Report Posted June 15, 2011 Hey guys I have a 1970 ke20, at the moment there is a 4k in it with a 5speed manual gearbox,both in bad condition I am wanting to put a better engine in her but I'm not sure which one would be suitable to replace the current one. I also need to find a mechanic that wont rip me off and is reasonably priced with quality work I have an idea of putting a 4age in her but i don't know what to do from this point on, Or would a 5k be the better choice. How much would it cost to get this all done too. I have no mechanics in my circle of help so I'm lost. If any one knows of a reliable mechanic in the logan area who can help me. . Quote
WET.K30 Posted June 15, 2011 Report Posted June 15, 2011 worked 4k or 5k cam, port, polish, shaved, doubble valve springs, twin 40mm dcoe side draughts. thats my dream ke20 :) Quote
KEI069 Posted June 15, 2011 Report Posted June 15, 2011 A 5k is going to be the easiest and cheapest upgrade coupled to a 5 speed and youll be cruising, or my choice would be 2tg for period correctness, but getting hard to find and a bit pricey. Quote
altezzaclub Posted June 15, 2011 Report Posted June 15, 2011 Be the first to make your own 5K! Strip the 4K, take the block to an engine reconditioners and ask if they would bore it to 5K piston size. That gives you the 5K's 1500cc instead of the 4K's 1300cc. Fit new bearings, check clutch & timing chain for wear, lighten the flywheel and reassemble. Clean up the head & open the ports out to suit the inlet gasket. Now you have a 1500cc motor that runs sweetly & have learnt a lot. Afterwards, fit twin SU carbs or a downdraught Weber, extractors and exhaust & have the cam ground... Now you have a fast 1500cc 4K! The arguments are that boring the 4K block to the 5K 80mm makes the walls too thin, but some people have done it and reckon its fine. It is no doubt cheaper to get a second-hand engine and just drop it in, but you might be buying one (4K or 5K) that is 3/4 as worn as yours anyway... and it is no doubt a lot more expensive to change the motor from the K series to anything else, be it 4A or T. Quote
WET.K30 Posted June 18, 2011 Report Posted June 18, 2011 hey altezzaclub sorry to but in on this but yoyur alwyse usefull. i wana do something similar wen i find a overrated ke20 or ke17 just wondering do u know if u can get 5k pistons new from toyota?? and am i right in saying you would have to run a 5k head gasket to match to size of the bore?? sorry if that last ones a stupid question thanks dude :) Quote
67Rolla-Ken Posted June 18, 2011 Report Posted June 18, 2011 (edited) I've seen a few threads mentioning new 5K pistons but not from Toyota. I don't know if that's because they don't sell them or because they would charge too much... I think you should go for this in your KE20 :lol: Edited June 18, 2011 by 67Rolla-Ken Quote
GJM85 Posted June 18, 2011 Report Posted June 18, 2011 (edited) 'as requested in previous post' :happy: 5k, cam, head job, sidedrafts, extractors, electronic ignition, exedy clutch, 5 speed in a ke20. Edited June 18, 2011 by GJM85 Quote
WET.K30 Posted June 19, 2011 Report Posted June 19, 2011 I've seen a few threads mentioning new 5K pistons but not from Toyota. I don't know if that's because they don't sell them or because they would charge too much... I think you should go for this in your KE20 :lol: lol i want it to be sleeper, it would be hard to hide that monster in it Quote
67Rolla-Ken Posted June 19, 2011 Report Posted June 19, 2011 ... but it would be fun to try! :D Quote
altezzaclub Posted June 19, 2011 Report Posted June 19, 2011 I don't know if Toyota carry new 5K pistons still, and you're right, you'd need a 5K head gasket. The shallow dish one here, also known as the round or 'O' dish. (deep one is 'D' dish) Its likely they are still around as 5Ks went on for longer in Asia as far as I know.- Malaysia/Phillipines. I've been talking to this dude & he said it was dead easy to do and created no problems with bore thickness. http://www.ae86drivi...rens-KE70-wagon Quote
Raven Posted June 19, 2011 Report Posted June 19, 2011 Be different, put a Merlin V12 in it and sit in the boot! :P Quote
SLO-030 Posted June 19, 2011 Report Posted June 19, 2011 Be different, put a Merlin V12 in it and sit in the boot! :P Mr Bean it on the roof. Quote
MYSTIK[RL] Posted June 19, 2011 Report Posted June 19, 2011 Mr Bean it on the roof. :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: Quote
altezzaclub Posted June 20, 2011 Report Posted June 20, 2011 Midstate Spares said $200 would buy standard sized 5K piston & rings, and a head gasket. So that's a pretty cheap conversion to 1500cc, and if the motor's shagged anyway it costs the same as going to 4K +40thou pistons yet gives you a far nicer car in the end.. Quote
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