Ke30 Drift

[ke70dave]

Rb30 ke??? Shit loads lighter than 3800... Think that would be a good cheap upgrade. Unless people have objections?

 

got any links to back up your engine weight claim?

 

i reckon the rb30 could potentially be heavier than the v6.

 

one advantage of the v6 is it is alot shorter than the rb30, help with that beloved weight distribution.

[Grand Master of Awesome]

Major downfall for the 30 is its steering box (no ones actually stated this yet, too busy being internet warriors), reason a car with box steering isnt ideal for drifting is there's lots of play in them.

You could convert it to rack and pinion but according to this thread http://www.rollaclub.com/board/topic/36875-ke30-55-steering/

you use a ke70 rack but then you need to mod cross member to suit.

 

For front end convert it to ae86 front suspension (not too sure of the details on this, someone might know) this gives you options of coilovers and shortened knuckles (techno toy tuning knuckles) bigger brake kits (rx7/ wilwood kit)

Rear end reset leaves with an extra leaf added for stiffness, some sort of stiffer shorter stroke shocks (suzuki sierra, trd blue etc?)

 

Engine its up to you, i know everyone here is saying engine conversions are illegal etc yes they are, but tons of people in every state drive with them get pulled over and no one really cares too much, 4age conversion has been documented lots of times so if you're a little under experienced this might be a better option, or if your wallet isnt that fat a 5k with some kind of carbs, a cam, extracters and exhaust would be ample until you get the bug for more power.

 

All i can be bothered writing at the moment, but hopefully leads you in the right direction.

[Jono.C]

There's an rb30et ke70 in the tassie drift series, firewall is about 8" recessed and full widened/ raised tunnel..

 

Doesn't really seem a good idea

[mrg187]

got any links to back up your engine weight claim?

 

i reckon the rb30 could potentially be heavier than the v6.

 

one advantage of the v6 is it is alot shorter than the rb30, help with that beloved weight distribution.

 

Nah mate none to back it up, was simply adding an opinion which was also a question.

Just seemed pretty obvious to me just by eye that the 3.8 would be heavier.

Edited May 18, 2011 by mrg187

[Jono.C]

rb30 is around 200-250kg when we weighed one out of a 31, commodore v6 is around 220 i heard? Plus commodore motor being V6 rather thn inline will distribute that weight much better

[mrg187]

There's an rb30et ke70 in the tassie drift series, firewall is about 8" recessed and full widened/ raised tunnel..

 

Doesn't really seem a good idea

 

Yea i would never do it, or recommend it but if u had no cash the 30 or 3.8 would be an ok option. Then again i bet my money the 30/3.8 would be scrapped for a sr, 4a, ca anyway.. So safe to say no point.

[mrg187]

rb30 is around 200-250kg when we weighed one out of a 31, commodore v6 is around 220 i heard? Plus commodore motor being V6 rather thn inline will distribute that weight much better

 

Ah ok i see, that proves me wrong. Guess i should have stated that "I think" it would be lighter lol..

[corollaart]

OH dear rollaclub always entertaining :lolcry: What about drifting in the forest been round 50 years or so.

 

rob

[TE278U]

this thread is bad enough without all the bullshit being added by certain rollaclub members who have asked similiar questions before they got their p plates, and then crashed a ke55... also suffering from poor grammar and spelling at times too.

 

for f@$ks sake, give the kid a break, we have all had dreams that may or may not be realistic, so if anyone feels like going off topic again, or displaying appalling rollaclub spirit, be warned. :fuzz:

 

 

 

 

as for a reply to the OP, sadly making your ke30 a drift car and street legal will be a major challenge.

 

first you will need reliable big power, whatever motor you choose, you'll need to budget around 1000 bucks.

 

then you'll need to make your car handle, this will involve custom suspension, as not a lot of aftermarket stuff for your car really exists. allow about 2-3grand

 

limited slip diff would be your only legal diff choice, again 500 bucks minimum.

 

after you've done all this, you probably want a race seat 300 and rollcage 800ish.

 

all the best with your project, it's yours to do with what you want, but remember even though this community can sometimes be immature and offensive, a lot of us have been down the path you wish to go, and some of our advice could save you some headaches and money.

 

build it, then stick it to em...

 

-dave

[TE278U]

additionally, you may find your ke30 more suited to club level motorsport, like motorkhanas and autocross which allow you to thrash your car in a safe environment, mostly on dirt, so you can get away with dirt drifting a basically stock ke30 for probably 100 or so bucks.

 

welded diff, and trailer hire, a helmet, long pants and shirt, bonnet. extra bonnet catch, extra return spring on accelerator and a blue triangle to point out your battery location

[yella]

i had a 3tc in a ke30 not long ago and it would drift that preety well.

3Tgte would be plenty of power for drifting a ke30 probably alot less effort than a v6

[RX-747]

I have to agree with TE278U get into motorkhanas and autocross.. its pretty much like drifting but on dirt (rally = fun!!) and all you need to do is your general services (oil changes, air filters, fix a few mechanical things, etc), lock your diff, get a few extra panels because its about 99% certain you will stack it and you are set to have some great fun for cheap.. As you go along, get experience and money then mod it accordingly

Edited May 18, 2011 by RX-747

[19914afc]

3t's are cheap and have decent power, I took mine to the track and with a pretty much STD 3t with just a weber and exhaust, with LSD and slightly taller diff ratio could get 3rd gear going in the dry held 2nd better though. Please note though even though the engine is still pretty stock it has cost around 3k (probably more) for just suspension, brakes and LSD, then a bit more for the carby and exhaust, and then being a 30 year old car the rest of it requires constant matinance fixing up small things to make it better and/or safer, start off with simple things like replaceing all your 30+ year old bushes bigger rear sway bar, suspension, ect.

Anything with wheels or tits will take your money.

[Nostalgia]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmAcL1arHtI

 

Filmed in 08, 14 years old. Pretty much a drift king.

 

KE30.

 

It had a LOT of work done to it, Nissan CA18 etc.

 

But he did move onto a Silvia (14 or 15) at some point if I remember correctly. Currently has a V8 AE71.

 

Point is, if you really want to make a KE30 into a decent drift car, go for it. But the amount of work put into this one crossed the roadworthy line way back I would expect, and took a lot of money and know-how.

 

Maybe have two KE30s? One as a neat and tidy daily with a few zippy bits, and a stripped one for drifting?

Edited May 18, 2011 by Nostalgia

[BUZ440]

Owning a street legal track KE30 two door,

 

IMO is not the ideal platform for a drift car, I'm not saying I'm the best driver, but I have had my fair share of hairy moments in the car, and hanging it out for prolonged periods the car does not feel suited, mine is safe to do so and is quite stiff,

 

I beleive the car is too small and the geometry is not ideal,

 

not taking away anything that other people have done previously in this post,

 

heaps of power and stiff suspension, and a smart approach anythings possible mate

 

5K motor and welded diff will be a great start, and do it legally, trial and error mate

 

my input