Borg Or Jap

[Kezzar]

how can i tell the difference between a borg and warner diff in a ke70 wagon, what physical appearance will i see?

 

Cheers, Kerry

Edited April 7, 2011 by Kezzar

[agius]

ke70 all came out with borg warners I'm pretty sure

 

with a borg warner theres a plate at the back of the center that u can undo, opposite the tail shaft (like a commodore diff)

 

where as the jap doesnt have that

[RainWarriorDregs]

is a S series diff the same as a "jap" diff. Because didn't the early KE70s come out with S series diffs?

[ke70dave]

i think agius is on the money.

 

borgy diffs have plate on the back of them, where as jap diffs have no plate, and you can take the "nose" of the diff out with the centre and gearset attached, like in this pic

 

http://www.rollaclub.com/board/uploads/monthly_02_2008/post-5294-1204181645_thumb.jpg

[Ben-89]

is a S series diff the same as a "jap" diff. Because didn't the early KE70s come out with S series diffs?

 

Spot on mate,

 

S Series jap diffs were fitted to flatfront ke70 se sedans built built before 1983. Borgwarner diffs were fitted to cs and xx models.

 

Ke70 panelvans however were fitted with s series leaf spung diffs from the factory.

 

Previous ae71 diff was a borgwarner. These have the backing plate.

 

My ke70 s series diff.

[Grand Master of Awesome]

are you sure your ke70 hadnt broken a diff and someone replaced it with an s series? was under the impression all australian ke70's were borg warner unless panelvan

[Ben-89]

are you sure your ke70 hadnt broken a diff and someone replaced it with an s series? was under the impression all australian ke70's were borg warner unless panelvan

Destroyer Nothing on my ke had been touched. I'm 110% sure all se spec 82 ke70s had s series diffs fitted from them factory.

When detailing under my ke I thought it shouldve had a borgie, but no. After poking around all the bolting points it had all the original red check marks from toyota which coinsided with the markings on the front suspension/steering assy too.

 

Since making this observation, I have counted 6 ke70s both in manual and auto with this diff.

This was a diff in an se down at the wreckers in January.

 

 

Edited April 7, 2011 by "The Mint KE70"

[Mitch-12]

which one is stronger?

[Grand Master of Awesome]

interesting, can you get a photo of your build plate?

 

its debatable, but personally i think the borgy is a stronger diff in general. wont snap as many axels as you would with an s series, but you get good and bad diffs with either.

[Evan G]

i reckon japs are stronger cause they would less flex thru the back plate (and most trucks run a banjo housing so they gotta be strong)

 

edit - ask slo-030 how strong diffs are :lolcry: 2 weeks strong :hmm:

Edited April 7, 2011 by Evan G

[SLO-030]

Depends on the Model of diff in comaprison in the Strength detbate.

[Mitch-12]

how many spline axels do ke70 borgie's have?

[SLO-030]

edit - ask slo-030 how strong diffs are :lolcry: 2 weeks strong :hmm:

 

No, thats the Uni Joints. On average of 1 uni/wk

 

Going Borgy, for the fact i can use a massively bigger tailshaft, with bigger (Holden 6cyl) uni joints, and the tailshaft will work with the W50 thats going in.

[Ben-89]

interesting, can you get a photo of your build plate?

 

its debatable, but personally i think the borgy is a stronger diff in general. wont snap as many axels as you would with an s series, but you get good and bad diffs with either.

I'll see what I can do :y:

[thcraig87]

I have had the same problem with the back universals, Are there any reasons why? Or is it just that they are small?