SinisterRolla Posted March 8, 2011 Report Posted March 8, 2011 Just wondering if anyone has ever done a V-tech conversion into any of the KE's and if use think it would be a good idea? Quote
Trev Posted March 8, 2011 Report Posted March 8, 2011 I think there was one done but cannot remember what it was. Best to use S2000 running gear. Quote
ae824ate Posted March 8, 2011 Report Posted March 8, 2011 A type R, 140ish kw. You got the $'s to do it? It would end up costing much more than the power is worth. And.....bugger honda. I do like the type R's though :rolls: Vtec is very over rated in my opinion. Quote
towe001 Posted March 8, 2011 Report Posted March 8, 2011 Just wondering if anyone has ever done a V-tech conversion into any of the KE's and if use think it would be a good idea? There's been a thread or two on the subject. The typical early honda motor spins anti-clockwise. More then likely you'll have to make custom bellhousing cause all bar two, the F20 and F22 from the S2000, are east-west only designed motors. http://hondaswap.com/general-tech-maintenance/some-engines-turn-counterclockwise-46572/ http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2557095 Good idea with thinking outside the box but i'd say it'll be expensive to go honda. Quote
KEhendo Posted March 8, 2011 Report Posted March 8, 2011 haven't seen in any KE's but i have seen two put into ae86s. one in the US and one in NZ. both using s2000 gear. Quote
ke70dave Posted March 8, 2011 Report Posted March 8, 2011 A type R, 140ish kw. You got the $'s to do it? It would end up costing much more than the power is worth. And.....bugger honda. I do like the type R's though :rolls: Vtec is very over rated in my opinion. care to elaborate? VTEC is quite possibly the greatest achievement in allowing an engine to have more power, while retaining great drivability in lower revs. why do you think its over rated? incorporating 2 or 3 camlobes for the valve train is a brilliant idea, allowing higher duration AND (most importantly) higher LIFT at high RPM's. the early vtec engines had that definate "Switch", but the later models are continuously variable valve timing, unsure how its done exactly, but its pretty damn awesome. most engine manufacturers are using the idea of variable valve timing these days, but my understanding is most (if not all) do not incorporate higher lift. in MY oppinion haters of vtec are those that don't understand how good it is.... a honda engine would be brilliant idea in RWD, but might be a challenge finding a RWD gearbox to suit. I'm sure you could machine up a chunky adaptor for it though, been done before on other engine/gearbox combos. Quote
BUZ440 Posted March 8, 2011 Report Posted March 8, 2011 (edited) I would agree the F20 and gear would be a good starting point, and highest reving NA 2L motor VTEC kick is a nifty piece of gear and although does not come on strong, good poke and handy on fuel, slap a turbo and a VTEC controller and watch the wonders come together Edited March 8, 2011 by NISROLA Quote
Felix Posted March 8, 2011 Report Posted March 8, 2011 There was a thread on the old toyota3tc.com forums where a guy put an F20C motor in a TE27. Quote
BUZ440 Posted March 8, 2011 Report Posted March 8, 2011 Nice fit, looks to be enough clearance for right hand drive cars Quote
ke70dave Posted March 8, 2011 Report Posted March 8, 2011 i remember reading the main drama with that engine was the exhaust being on the drivers side, so you need some funky extractors to clear all the stearing gear. especially important with steering boxes etc in the old ke's. I'm sure anything is doable, have a look at beerhead's extractors he made, they look awesome. which is why its "more popular" in the US since the steering is on the other side. ps. that is a brilliant looking car, just needs a parker lense! (or whatever is usally beside the headlight) Quote
ae824ate Posted March 9, 2011 Report Posted March 9, 2011 care to elaborate? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VTEC. I'm aware that how the valve timing and lift control of the vtec is revoloutionary, and its an awesome and well functioning system. Take into account a 140/150kw hona vtec halfcut/ engine package will set you back about $6000 (the prices ive been able to find), then to mate it to a rwd gearbox probably with an adaptor made up, then all the other normal engine conversion stuffarounds. Half of this could be spent for example an SR20det conversion with more power (not the same power curve), already with the rwd gearbox etc. Also check out the vtec V6's (199kw/271hp). I reckon it would be cool to see a vtec powered corolla, but i personally would invest in something else. Quote
SLW42 Posted March 9, 2011 Report Posted March 9, 2011 (edited) 1st question - Why a Honda engine?? 2nd question - How much money, time, patience do you have? 3rd question - What car would you put it into, if you had the chance 4th question - WHY A HONDA MOTOR and now a did you know - did you know that all honda motors spin counter clockwise Except the s2000 engine Edited March 9, 2011 by SLW42 Quote
ke70dave Posted March 9, 2011 Report Posted March 9, 2011 and now a did you know - did you know that all honda motors spin counter clockwise Except the s2000 engine yeah there is that... i always wondered about the posibility of flipping over a differential to combat that issue. would be a pretty custom job thats for sure. but you would be getting a custom diff probably anyway.. unsure what effect this would have on oil delivery to the gears, probably not ideal. Or if diff gears are designed to be driven one direction, and if you drive them in "reverse" for an extended period of time is that bad for it? who knows...lots of issues to think about here. Quote
SLW42 Posted March 9, 2011 Report Posted March 9, 2011 yeah there is that... i always wondered about the posibility of flipping over a differential to combat that issue. would be a pretty custom job thats for sure. but you would be getting a custom diff probably anyway.. unsure what effect this would have on oil delivery to the gears, probably not ideal. Or if diff gears are designed to be driven one direction, and if you drive them in "reverse" for an extended period of time is that bad for it? who knows...lots of issues to think about here. Yeah I think that's why Honda motors except for the s2000 motor stay in Honda's, simply because of the amount of custom shit you would need to make to counter Honda's clever idea of making there motors spin backwards :bash: Quote
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