Ke11 4Age

[jonh ke11]

can i put a ae71 complete cross member cut it down to fit a ke11 engine bay with a rack n pion setup

has anyone done such a conversion?

[Sam_Q]

yes I have done simular, although to a TA22 instead:

 

http://s-86.com/s-parts-ta22rp.html

 

whatever you do don't shorten the crossmember! well ok if you take the rack apart and shorten it in a lathe you can but otherwise no

[Des]

Ae71 member wont go without a lot of work. ke11 use a wishbone lower control arm with no castor rod. ae71 use a castor rod.

[Sam_Q]

Ae71 member wont go without a lot of work. ke11 use a wishbone lower control arm with no castor rod. ae71 use a castor rod.

 

interesting point, however doesn't the suspension out of a ke20 bolt right in?

[Des]

No, there is no provision for a castor rod setup unless you cut and weld ke20 sections in. Thats from what ive seen in my ke11 and ke20.

[Sam_Q]

ah I see, sounds a bit time consuming. Although grated modding a ae71 crossmember and coloumn half to fit in is a pretty serious job in itself. There is a good reason I charge $850 for the job on the ta22's

[jimi91]

I was told a ke20 cross member will fit with a little work into a ke10 or ke15 its the lower arms u have to mod ???? hmmmm :hmm:

 

see ya

 

jimi

[Des]

ke20 arms wont work unless you use the castor rods which wont go with out work.

[jimi91]

hmmmm yeah thats what i thought :hmm:

 

see ya

 

jimi

[Jordain]

Ke20 cross member bolts in, you need to find a way of putting the castor rod set up from the ke20 to the ke10. I'm not sure how this is done. I would say just mix and match some engine mounts on the stock ke10 cross member, take the leaf spring out and put some coil overs on with a strut brace and a sway bar. Will improve the handling a lot. Put an ae71 rack onto the ke10 cross member. Probably have to shorten it as Sam has mentioned.

[Sam_Q]

putting the ae71 rack on the ke10 crossmember would be very difficult to do right and highly unrecommmended. A custom adjustable jig would be needed to be made off an ae71 crossmember to get it right.

[jimi91]

hmmmm yeah i agree with sam it would be not as easy as just slapping in a rack it would be alot of work !! :hmm:

 

see ya

 

jimi

[phife]

Ae71 crossmember is obviously too wide, if you were to cut it down you would also have to cut down the rack or find a shorter alternative. This could affect ackerman angles etc, gets too hard to work out.

 

Ke20 crossmember just fits width wise but mounting holes are a little out.

I have done this and found it pushes the front wheels forward (caster). I couldn't push the crossmember back enough as it then fouls on the pitman/idler arms and steering linkages.

Other pictures i've seen with this done confirms the added caster.

 

Fitting a rack to Ke1# crossmember won't work too well because the lower wishbone arms get in the way.

It could work if you converted the wishbones to common lca's. A bit of work involved, an engineer should be consulted.