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[LittleRedSpirit]

Hello.

 

Like the person above said you may as well go buy a GTR Skyline, the 4age in an ae86 (unless its jap spec import that came with a 4age) will be a legal no go. So therefore you should be looking for a JDM AE86 to begin with, which is no big deal, as long as you have at least 8 grand to spend on the car.

 

So anyhow. You shouldn't just go swapping the heads from 16v to 20v for the most part, as there are flycuts in the pistons to clear the valves which make sure all Toyota motors are non interference. Id recommend this would be best done with the appropriate low comp pistons to suit the 5 valve per cylinder head. I have heard of people building the poor mans 4agte 20v and just tossing the 20v head on a gze bottom end which works but I'm unsure of the resulting Compression Ratio. Perhaps someone can confirm who has done this...

 

Putting a GZE charger or a 20v is a difficult exercise as the manifold from the GZE will not work, you can make your own, but would you retain the itbs? sounds like a bit of a head f@$k and hard to do nicely.

 

So just forget boost until Johnny Hopper says its all ok. Build an AE86 that handles great and learn to drive it, its the better way to go. If you want to beat turbo cars, good luck, according to the government you aren't allowed the privelige just yet. :yes:

[PLZ818]

ah well the government are the fun police i might just do a ground up rebuild iv found a shell all it needs is a paint engine an gearbox and its only 2 k rust free! ill keep u guys posted :D

[seabiscuit]

ah well the government are the fun police i might just do a ground up rebuild iv found a shell all it needs is a paint engine an gearbox and its only 2 k rust free! ill keep u guys posted :D

I would HIGHLY recommend a KE70 or AE71. They really are an AE86 with 2 extra doors, but 1 less zero on the price tag.

 

The government/police are there to keep the community a safe place to live.

[Sloth]

Just be careful, 86s always end up costing more than you think. I picked up mine for 2k and now I've spent.... well lets just say a lot, and there is much more I still want to do. Make sure you make a budget and stick to it.

[PLZ818]

hahah sloth isnt that the way with all cars? lol and i was going to go down the ke70 path but there 4k+ for a decent car iv seen thats without rust plus i see the ae86 becoming somewhat of a cult in years time sure there popular now but give it 20 years there will be little gems in a life of hybrids and electrics :) its just not a project its a investment :)

[Sloth]

its just not a project its a investment :)

 

LOL

 

86s are a really fun car though, I absolutely love mine.

[parrot]

Really it all depends on what you want to do to it and how long you intend to keep it. There are a lot of bitsa cars out there that have had very average conversions done. And I don't know how many cars I have seen over the years get converted to something other than a 4AC, and subsequently crashed and parted out, or sold on as projects cause they don't run right, or turned into wannabee drift cars and sold on because they are a pig as a daily driver.

 

Don't just follow everyone else, modify it sensibly to suit it's main purpose. If it is a daily driver, you don't need coilovers, stupid wheel widths, etc.

 

I bought my ADM car back in the early 90's and initially built it as a daily driver with a conversion to 16 valve with a factory engine loom adapted into the existing loom. Since then I have made it essentially factory, right down to the little bracket that secures the factory fuel line to the rear of the chassis. The only parts still on the car from when I bought it are the passenger door and front guard, front and rear bumpers, crossmembers,,rack, interior plastics, dash pad, back seat and carpet. Every single other part has been changed for a factory GT part or a modified component. And there are a surprising number of parts that you can spend a lot of money on......

 

No, you don't need do the same as me, but don't be under any illusions, whichever way you go, it is substantially more complicated and expensive than you think. You won't convert it in a weekend, unless you obtain a complete front cut from somewhere, and swap every single part over, plus plan in advance to set up a fuel system.

 

I will never sell my car as I know every single nut and bolt in it, sometimes multiple times. It is a hell of a lot of fun to drive, and totally reliable. But only because it has been done sensibly.

 

Edit: There is absolutely no question that you will need to get the car engineered in order for it to be a legal conversion with regards to your state transport authority and crucially insurance. Don't be tempted to dodge it with the old engine change rubbish. You crash it and you are potentially screwed financially for a long time.

Edited January 7, 2011 by parrot

[PLZ818]

I'm taking seabiscuits advice and getting a ke70 or if I'm lucky ae71 only for two reasons there are lot cheaper option for a 20 year old p plater. insurance is 1k cheaper and i think they look a lot tuffer then the ae's tbh anyways i will keep you guys posted just waiting for tax to come in :D

[bAKER]

I'm taking seabiscuits advice and getting a ke70 or if I'm lucky ae71 only for two reasons there are lot cheaper option for a 20 year old p plater. insurance is 1k cheaper and i think they look a lot tuffer then the ae's tbh anyways i will keep you guys posted just waiting for tax to come in :D

 

Definitely worth it. If you want the power try get your hands on an AE71. Easier to get a 4age in them legally...

Good luck mate.