My Ke20 Project

[young ke20]

Hey all,

 

I have a 1971 KE20 corolla and having troubles deciding what to do with it

 

 

4AGE - Seems like a easy conversion... T50 box.... engine mounts.. blah etc...... thats wht i want to do.. but having troble finding a 4age.. i have a T50 box in my backyard.... ive rang around Adelaide for the past 4 months..... ethier no one has one or they want 1500 plus for a FWD motor... Dreamers..?

 

SR20DE- Ive done some research and seems like a hard conversion.... cutting the tunnel making a new one... getting everything to fit..... i have no problems with the diff side of it.... i have a R31 diff 4:11 sitting in my backyard ready to be customized at rodtech 2 suit my KE20.. i could get a SR tommorow if i really wanted to be is it more trouble fitting everything than what it is made out to be?

Edited September 20, 2010 by young ke20

[Tally]

id say 4AGE, done many many times before, info on the conversion is around the place on the internet man.

 

best chance at finding a 4age is to keep an eye on the corolla forums ie rollaclub ae86dc, toymods etc and jump on one when they come up.

 

ring some import places around adelaide they may have some 4age's, adelaide jap had some silver and blacktop 20V's not long ago, not sure if they still have them...

 

SR20s are a crazy engine but all depends on what type engine you want...

[JJT036]

Nice Ke20 bud. What about 3S-GE or GTE Conversion? Maybe even 3T-GTE?

 

Josh :cool:

[skd30]

id say 4AGE, done many many times before, info on the conversion is around the place on the internet man.

 

best chance at finding a 4age is to keep an eye on the corolla forums ie rollaclub ae86dc, toymods etc and jump on one when they come up.

 

ring some import places around adelaide they may have some 4age's, adelaide jap had some silver and blacktop 20V's not long ago, not sure if they still have them...

 

SR20s are a crazy engine but all depends on what type engine you want...

 

You could also try hachiroku.com.au I got a motor with standard loom and computer and t50 box of their forum.

 

Nice car, id go 4age or if you wanted to go easier you could go 5k with a few mods

[GJM85]

The problem is, when the 4AGE is spent and done...you've lost 50% of the value of the car. These 20's are between 36 and 40 years old and the value will just keep climbing from here. When someone goes out to buy a car like this, they look for something that hasn't been modified, so they can rebuild and customise the car their own way and become "one with the rolla".

If you plan on keeping the car forever and consider yourself a true lover of 'make' then by all means cut, shut and f@$k the shit out of it. If you're the person, like many others, who gets bored after 2 years and tries to sell a half completed or half arsed project then I suggest you leave it ridgy-didge, keep it immaculate and sell it for increased margin....

 

....at the end of the day, if you can't afford the engine you want, you can't afford to get it in there.

 

5K ALL THE WAY!!! :rocknroll: :rocknroll: :rocknroll: :rocknroll: :rocknroll:

Edited September 21, 2010 by GJM85

[ke20rolla]

I say keep it stock standard. There isn't enough stock originals as there is, and it would be worth more in standard condition. :y:

[greenmac80]

how about we stay on topic?? the fella asked a simple question not how much it'd be worth or any shit like that.

 

4age will be much easier than an sr20 some would say the sr would be worth the trouble. and perhaps it is. but.. it all depends on how much work your willing to do.

i got my 20v silvertop for 1200 bucks low k's with loom and ecu.. so i don't where your calling? try paradise motors that where i got mine.

 

1500 would be ok for an extremely low km 4age.

and as said before check some other forums. they come up real cheap quite often.

[Doogs]

How much do you plan on doing yourself/do you have any fabrication skills?

 

Nice Ke20 bud. What about 3S-GE or GTE Conversion? Maybe even 3T-GTE?

 

Josh :cool:

That would be awesome. It's something I have been considering for down the track, fair bit of work but would be incredible.

 

The problem is, when the 4AGE is spent and done...you've lost 50% of the value of the car. These 20's are between 36 and 40 years old and the value will just keep climbing from here. When someone goes out to buy a car like this, they look for something that hasn't been modified, so they can rebuild and customise the car their own way and become "one with the rolla".

If you plan on keeping the car forever and consider yourself a true lover of 'make' then by all means cut, shut and f@$k the shit out of it. If you're the person, like many others, who gets bored after 2 years and tries to sell a half completed or half arsed project then I suggest you leave it ridgy-didge, keep it immaculate and sell it for increased margin....

 

....at the end of the day, if you can't afford the engine you want, you can't afford to get it in there.

 

5K ALL THE WAY!!! :rocknroll: :rocknroll: :rocknroll: :rocknroll: :rocknroll:

 

A Corolla is not woth very much in the first place! Dropping the value of the car would not be at the top of my list for reasons not to do a conversion. You do make a fair point about the cost of a conversion though. The conversion process is not going to be cheap, especially if you are paying others to work on the car.

 

young ke20 you need to work out how much money you have to spend, and how much you are capable of doing yourself. This will make the choice a fair bit clearer and may even rule out a multi-valve conversion. The 4AGE is likely to be the "cheaper" option because less custom work is required. It is still not '"cheap" though.

[Evan G]

let rust and old age ruin corollas not engine conversions

Edited September 21, 2010 by Evan G

[skd30]

let rust and old age ruin corollas not engine conversions

 

 

A conversion done WELL won't ruin it...thats evident with a few cars on here

[Doogs]

A conversion done WELL won't ruin it...thats evident with a few cars on here

 

Exactly. Yes if someone hacks up a car and doesn't complete a conversion it is a pity, but conversions "ruining" Corollas is crap. What are we ? MG owners or some kind of crazy purists?! "Ohh mate, can't go past the powerhouse 3k..." "Don't change anything, you really must have a matching numbers Corolla"

Corolla's are a mass produced passenger car, not some limited edition un-modifyable machine.

 

Make your own choice and suit your own taste. Yes I agree not all Rolla's should be cut up or neglected halfway, but I don't think we should be worried about "ruining" them with a conversion. A clean original rolla has it's importance and place, but so does a modified one.

[ausca62]

Hi mate, looks like a sweet ride to start with.

 

I think you can't go past a 2TG. Easy conversion, no major changes, (fuel system,computer etc) and period correct.

 

Good luck with whatever you decide. Cheers Paul.

 

 

Edited September 25, 2010 by ausca62

[young ke20]

ok well guys sorry i havent been on here for a couple of weeks... like to thank people for all there inputs.... ok... This ke20 i have... i would love to keep it for a very long time and have no interest of getting rid of it..... My fabrication skills and knowledge is pretty high... I'm am nearly a 3rd year apprentice mechanic... and my dad works at rodtech on hampsted road who have a well reputation for fabrication so no problem there...... i would love to go 20 valve but through my buddies at jaustech they said 20 valve comps are like hens teeth if u don't buy a complete package... and i would have to modify the firewall for the distributor... its not a bad idea for the 2tg... or 3.. but id previously looked that up and had no luck on finding any 2tg motors.... the R31 auto 4:11 diff is in the process of getting cut and shut.... calipers and brackets all polished and zinc plated =] very nice..... i would love to go sr... seeing tonite a 180sx making solid 220kw runs on jaustech's dyno but I'm going 16v 4age... I'm guna stick to it... even if i have to buy a corolla seca or something just for the 4age I'm willing to do.... pulled the diff out on the weekend.... heaps easy... besides popping out the axles... but u gotta love it wen redback spiders jump on you wen your trying to get those pain in the a$$ plastic handbrake guides out...

[young ke20]

thanks for the reference's guys :y:

[greenmac80]

do some real research on the 20v ok? there a quite a few ways around having the distributor n the back of the head on a standard ecu.

try

www.club4ag.com

 

there relocation kits. DLI kits and you can also run COPS and bypass the coil altogether with the standard ecu.