Flat Shifting

[Mitch-12]

Hey i have a ke70 with a 4 speed manual i use it for offroad khanacross events and was wondering do k40 gearboxs like flatshifting from 1st to 2nd i don't care if the gearbox only lasts one event i jus need a slight egde to come 1st instead of second all the time and i can't do anymore to my car within the rules.... so yeah jus wondering

[Grand Master of Awesome]

just don't use the clutch

SMASH THOSE SYNCROS

[Evan G]

you just have to rev match

[Mitch-12]

i have a dogbox in my track car its a vs holden auscar i can rev match and stuff but what happens if you hold it flat and jus pull it into 2nd?

[Evan G]

wont select 2nd, you have to match road speed to engine speed then it will slip in. better off just side stepping/dropping the clutch

[Redwarf]

No. Change normally. It wont make you any faster, and the equipment will last longer.

 

You sound like you're heading in the wrong direction. Smooth is what you need to be. Smooth is fast.

Edited June 1, 2010 by Redwarf

[StasIII]

You can do it, its very possible but it does break boxes. I'm on my 3rd atm

[Mitch-12]

No. Change normally. It wont make you any faster, and the equipment will last longer.

 

You sound like you're heading in the wrong direction. Smooth is what you need to be. Smooth is fast.

it would flat change like a dogbox it would be faster but usually with a synchro box its faster with the clutch

[towe001]

Can be done with pretty well much any g'box.

 

But i'm with Redwarf - smooth is fast.

[wagn]

You can do it, its very possible but it does break boxes. I'm on my 3rd atm

Yep i've broken 2 k40's

[Mitch-12]

so do yous jus pull the stick no clutch without lifting the throttle and it goes in.. how many gearchanges do they last

[coln72]

If you treat a box like that - not long

 

Another for smooth changing. You may (most likely may not) save a pooftenth of a second flat shifting, but the shock loading is gonna break traction and kick you sideways costing you bulk time. As Red said, smooth = fast, and he is one to listen too.

 

Buy the way, I only killed one K40 in over 10 years of motorsport - back into first gear at 50km/h took teeth of first gear.

[StasIII]

hold it flat through 1st to 2nd and pump the clutch while moving it into gear. don't hold off the accelrator.

 

wagn- 2 k40s and 1 k50 sent to heaven

[Taz_Rx]

so do yous jus pull the stick no clutch without lifting the throttle and it goes in.. how many gearchanges do they last

 

There's no way you'll get it out of first without lifting off the throttle or using the clutch. Getting it into the next gear isn't so much of a problem, its just getting it out of the gear the currently has load on it.

 

I spent my last outing to the dragway flatshift all gear all day, But:

1, I have a K-T50, although this still isn't indestructable.

2, I was only doing to stop the boost dropping off so much in gear changes. In an NA car I would pay my gearbox some resepect and use both feet. :D

[cuzzo]

In an NA car I would pay my gearbox some resepect and use both feet. ;)

 

 

You'd walk??? :D

 

Fifth or sixth, just the clutch.