Ke35 What Engine?

[springersrolla]

ive been trawling different forums and search's all day and been dreaming big and need some positive input from all whos got the time to read this post. I'm getting a ke35 that a mate has had for years and ive always wanted a berko project,

and big respect for him moving it round with him over the years so i want something crazy.

Now qld has some pretty lame engineering laws, but so do most states, but i just don't know what engine to put it this 35. I'm gonna do the hilux/pug/corona front brake conversion with coilovers and run a shortened borgwarner rear. keeping the rear leafs stiff with caltracks, instead of crazy fab work like 4link etc. I'm a fitter/turner by trade with access to all the tools id possibly need but can't figure out what motor.

 

I also forgot to say the ke35 comes with a seized 13b. so naturally I'm thinking 13bbp, or pp. but i can't help but feel I'm restricted to a n/a rotor, whereas i could put in a turbo sr20.

 

lets say the 13bpp makes 170-220rwhp, a sr20det tweeked makes 250+rwhp probably slightly laggy but legal, ca18 200-250rwhp etc. no chance in getting the 13b turbo registered so whats my options?. i have the car so it owes me nothing and will try to do the suspension as cheap as possible leaving me with an easy $5000 for a engine conversion.

 

My main intention on building a bullshit 35 is to pull up next to a $70,000 hsv and drop the clutch and scare the shit out of them, also all the rice racers around, something old, stealth, grandad looking, quiet that f@$kin explodes and scares the shit out of the guy racing me.id like to do track racing and circuit, mainly street, I'm up for a bit of a mad challenge, whats my options legally? cheers and any input, any crazy ideas i'll consider it all.

Edited May 18, 2010 by springersrolla

[yrreda25]

why not consider a 3sgte keep it in the family??

[springersrolla]

thought bout it, not bad not bad at all, hows power figures match sr20 rpm/reliability

[Sam_Q]

why not consider a 3sgte keep it in the family??

 

and why "keep it in the family"?

 

a 3s to rwd is a time consuming and hard conversion compared to other options

[Felix]

13bpp... quiet. :P

[seabiscuit]

and why "keep it in the family"?

 

a 3s to rwd is a time consuming and hard conversion compared to other options

Unless you can afford a beams Altezza package.

[Sam_Q]

thats still a hard conversion, well to do right anyway, I have seen some bodge jobs

[oh what a nissan feeling!]

a sr20det tweeked makes 250+rwhp probably slightly laggy but legal

 

 

stock sr20 plus gt28rs with .63 rear will get you 300rwhp on 18 psi, lag is non existent,

 

Good for an 11.5 on the quarter by the moroso calculator, though i never got to the drags with mine.

 

plant it in 3rd with new 205s on the back and the rear wheels will start spinning hard once it hits about 4,000 rpm or about 80-90 kph.(with caltacs + lsd)

 

Sound like fun yet????

[springersrolla]

sounds fricken awesome 11's is mental in any car, disco potato, 3" exhaust, ecu. its all looking to hit the $5000 budget and easy enough to do and get engineered, plus wheelspin at 90 in 3rd spinning hard will be a challenge keeping straight, imagine the new owner of that VE 6.0lt hsv's face

Edited May 18, 2010 by springersrolla

[thcraig87]

Mate if you want to push the boundaries of power you have to go the SR20. Its great how it is just legal to go in the KE35. I was in a mate's 180sx and a KE35 with with a pretty similar setup (we found out later) blew us away. It was great! Although, I have to agree with yrreda25 above and say keep it in the family. You can do a fair bit with a 4agze and its easier than a 3s apparently.

 

The rotor option is something else. I would love to do with mine, but may not achieve everything you want.

 

Best of luck

[springersrolla]

yeh 13bbp quiet not gonna happen, sorta leaves that stealth image way behind, my mates 13bbp is noisy as f@$k just at idle sorta dead set giveaway. i really really do love this datto http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQNp0UvYyMo . the peashooter out the back to 3"dump does it for me, shame bout the roll cage check out the drive video in his other vids aswell. I love the bonnet pop from the shity mustard to the sterile clean engine bay of the sr. fully sleeper, but i'd black out that roll cage

Edited May 18, 2010 by springersrolla

[springersrolla]

my mates running a ae93 4agze with 121hp at the front tyres, torquey yes, powerful erhh, it seems it needs so much more to get it boogieing its got front mount, microtech, fuel pump, full exhaust, all the work just doesnt do it for me, plus conversion fwd to rwd, needs some good money and tuning to wake it up.

 

whereas my mate had a u13 bluebird import sss pulsar n14 with sr20det standard everything with dual stage boost controller and full exhaust and front mount and f@$k, it scared some quality ricers with a good bit of boost spool, i think the sr's looking like the path to go big turbo, good tune, wild times

[oh what a nissan feeling!]

sounds fricken awesome 11's is mental in any car, disco potato, 3" exhaust, ecu. its all looking to hit the $5000 budget and easy enough to do and get engineered, plus wheelspin at 90 in 3rd spinning hard will be a challenge keeping straight, imagine the new owner of that VE 6.0lt hsv's face

 

+ diff, brakes, tailshaft, ect. I did mine for 9 grand total, before i stripped it for this build, that includes wheels, ect, the whole lot.

 

It really depends how much you can do yourself, being a fitter and turner i would assume your skill would be there.

[springersrolla]

yeh man I'm expecting the build to run outta control but would prefer the cash into the motor, but you know tax time is only a few months away which is a good little bonus i guess its just getting some ideas to what motor but leaning pretty strong to the sr20 provided i can find the right one at the right price, theres some ridiculous priced motors that who knows if there f@$ked for sale

[springersrolla]

how cool is that 120y http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkUG5hY4prc shame he doesnt really get up it but you can see how good it runs with that weight and tyre width