Best Ke55 Camber Tops

[seabiscuit]

that wont do jack, spring hat will still the strut tower.

 

only way is with smaller spring/spring hat or coilovers

It works Evan..... :rolls:

[Evan G]

It works Evan..... :rolls:

 

how so? i could only get mine to move 1mm with the standard strut?

[skd30]

how so? i could only get mine to move 1mm with the standard strut?

 

 

Well i think mine work with standard springs and tops cause the camber tops put the spring hat lower in the strut tower where its wider. doesn't really count for standard tops.

[silverra23]

Cusco make an excellent camber top for KE30-55. I only used mine with coil-overs so can't comment on the effectiveness or otherwise of them with standard springs and spring retainers.

 

AJPS can get the cusco tops for you.

[Andy43]

All

The info on speedway.

 

Class is 1200 junior sedans.

Car is basicly stock, with a lumpy cam and locked diff.

Roll cage is very serious and strong.

The car gets checked prior to each meeting and a full going over once a year

Age is 10 to 16 years.

No passangers allowed

Its controlled by NSAR.

License (NSAR), Rego (ASCF) cost about $200 per year

Race suit and gloves boots undie's ect ect about $1000.

You and pick up a runner for about $3000, for something really good about $6000.

Regs can be found at http://www.speedwaysedans.com/page.asp?Pag...0Specifications

 

Now Camber woes.

Stock setup will give you mega understeer.

Where running a camber plate between the strut and the ball joint, works a treat but need to beware of not excedding track limit of 1345mm, we control under/over steer buy changing stagger and spacer on right rear, more stagger / spacer more oversteer.

I'll put a pick up of the plate and you will see what is required.

 

CYA

Andy

Edited May 27, 2010 by Andy43

[Andy43]

Blokes

Here's how we do it speedway style.

Instead of bringing the top of the towers in, we bring to strut bottoms out.

Sorry about all the mud.

Works a treat.

Andy

[Taz_Rx]

Blokes

Here's how we do it speedway style.

Instead of bringing the top of the towers in, we bring to strut bottoms out.

Sorry about all the mud.

Works a treat.

Andy

 

Interesting. Is that still allowd within the rules?

 

Much easier than changing LCA and also having to do something about steering.

[Andy43]

Interesting. Is that still allowd within the rules?

 

Much easier than changing LCA and also having to do something about steering.

 

 

Camber and Caster correction is legal and as were not changing or modifying any stock compenets we therefore fall into the rules.

We do however need to check track as this little work around can push us past our track limit of 1345mm, we are carefull what mags we run when we have the plate in.

Also the other good this is toe remains the same.

 

Cheers

Andy

[towe001]

I can't think of it but moving the strut out like that can cause problems with the steering. Steering Axis Inclination (SAI) ? Scrub radius ? Its something like that.

 

But for a dirt track car, top idea.

[styler]

hmmmm.... somewhat the same as ncras (negative camber roll centre adjusters) without the spacer height factor,

but I'm guessing the plate possibly lacks a spigot ring to locate the strut and recesses to locate the steering arm...

i see where you are coming from with the tight rules for modification though which probably explains it.

Edited May 31, 2010 by styler

[Andy43]

hmmmm.... somewhat the same as ncras (negative camber roll centre adjusters) without the spacer height factor,

but I'm guessing the plate possibly lacks a spigot ring to locate the strut and recesses to locate the steering arm...

i see where you are coming from with the tight rules for modification though which probably explains it.

 

Aggree

I was concerned about scrub radius and bump steer as not only is the strut moved out it is also moved forward.

I tested the plate a few meetings back and found no negitive effects, steering does pull left a bit but as we spend more time turning left than going straight causes no problems.

 

Wholes are drilled out larger on the part that mounts to steering arm so uses factory spigots, the spigots do have a habit of popping out, this can effect toe as the plate is then free to move around so a extra spigot on top fixes that up.

 

Cheers

Andy

[towe001]

Bump steer wouldn't change cause you haven't moved the steering arms and ball joints.

What you have changed is the SAI which in turn has moved the scrub radius out to a more positive angle. But depending on what rims your running can bring that angle back in and/or bring it to a negative angle.

[brendan]

i just purchased cusco camber tops to suit ke70 ,is that the same situation with ke70's they hit the tower?(stock struts)

[silverra23]

If you are running standard springs and not coil overs, you won't get as much negative camber as would be possible with coil overs, but it should make some difference

[wde_bdy]

Camber and Caster correction is legal and as were not changing or modifying any stock compenets we therefore fall into the rules.

We do however need to check track as this little work around can push us past our track limit of 1345mm, we are carefull what mags we run when we have the plate in.

Also the other good this is toe remains the same.

 

Cheers

Andy

 

Interesting approach. Do you run with this done to just one side or both? I would think if you are only going one way around the track just cambering up the outside wheel would work quite well and lessen the track widening effect.

A similar class is run here in NZ but just uses donor cars with a standard spec chassis and body, called ministocks. Have to be able to run the track both ways as well so makes it a bit more of a level playing field. Supposed to be a cheap race series to get young people into the sport but as usual some parents get a bit carried away and a top spec car can cost up to $30k. Total bullshit for what is supposed to be standard motors.

http://www.ministock.co.nz/

 

Callum