KENut Posted September 1, 2010 Report Posted September 1, 2010 Personally I'd use single valve springs, you should still have plenty of spring pressure. But yeah 9000rpm is quite a lot haha. According to some K's reach a harmonic point at 8000. I do know someone that had a 3K that reved past 10,000 though I see what you're saying with the spring pushing on the cam, but with higher spring pressure comes more friction, on the cam/cam followers and cam bearings etc. Friction is power loss Quote
altezzaclub Posted September 2, 2010 Report Posted September 2, 2010 The dual springs are to eliminate the natural resonance you get with any spring, not to add any extra pressure on the valve. Valve bounce will come from the harmonics of the spring at a certain rev range, so you add a sprng that doesn't have bounce at those revs. Quote
philbey Posted September 2, 2010 Author Report Posted September 2, 2010 Probably the best advice is: don't get too carried away with seat pressures and double valve springs, you can use up HP to open and close valves and also increased valve train wear. Does anybody have another opinion on the high seat pressure using power topic? I There's a common misconception that doubles = high spring pressures. I did the calcs for my Crow 4220's; starting with the same seat pressure as stock, the nose pressure is less. Duals have a lower spring rate, so by the time you increase lift you can still end up with less nose pressure! My concern was that I might have to low a seat pressure given my large cam! Again - this is not a "rule of thumb". I calculated all my pressures myself and I checked and rechecked. Honestly, anyone building their own motor should be doing the same, as each application will differ. My biggest problem was spring bind because of my lift, and Duals were the only option without doing machining. Quote
Andy43 Posted September 3, 2010 Report Posted September 3, 2010 Where running Holden 202 springs in out speedway car, We run out of grunt at about 8000 and have no problems with valve bounce Quote
mooseman426 Posted September 6, 2010 Report Posted September 6, 2010 Where running Holden 202 springs in out speedway car, We run out of grunt at about 8000 and have no problems with valve bounce Did you need to machine the spring seats to use the 202's? Quote
Pongwow! Posted September 6, 2010 Report Posted September 6, 2010 we have commadore ones I'm pretty sure and seem good Quote
Andy43 Posted September 8, 2010 Report Posted September 8, 2010 Did you need to machine the spring seats to use the 202's? I'm not sure as my head bloke does it all, Good news is I dropped a head in there last week I will ask when I pick it up in a few days. Quote
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