Raven Posted July 12, 2005 Report Posted July 12, 2005 I was hunting around the wrecking yard yesterday and came across a Suzuki LJ20. The kinda look like mini army-issue 4WD;s Worth a look :D Quote
ancullen Posted July 13, 2005 Report Posted July 13, 2005 The trouble is they're a bit too uncommon. The Sierra would be a better (read: safer) option. Quote
Dan Posted July 15, 2005 Report Posted July 15, 2005 We have a 89 FJ62 Landcruiser for sale, its a two owner 159000km car thats hardly ever been off road, 3F petrol motor, bar work, good Reese hitch, chrome rims etc.... we bought it for off road driving which we never got the chance to do. We bought it after being told that the 62 series were better on juice and offroad then the 80 series, were more up to date that the 60 series and were the last of the pre-electronical nightmare cars to come out - I'd like to see someone fix a 80 series in the bush with minimal tools like they would to a 62 series. It is an excellent car off road in the times we took it off road, will do beaches etc. easy and rutty tracks quite easily. However, the HiLux is considered a better vehicle off road with a lift kit, 33" or 35" tyres and some air locker diffs, however people tend to steer away from them because they are prone to rolling - being such as narrow car and all. The Suzuki Sierras are awesome cars off road, especially with a lift kit and meaty tyres. They are so light, they will get down tracks that bigger 4wds would have no hope on, and when you perform a turbo/engine swap or preferably both, I would presume they would go alot better off road. These really are better cars because not only they are better in the bush, but more economical and cheaper to buy as well. Also, supposably Patrols are better off road than Landcruisers. Unless you have 4WD experience, buy a boonger first than upgrade, it will save you a hell of a lot of hassle when you damage the car. If you are going to do some lesser offroading, just buy a 2WD dual cab ute (Rodeo, Hilux) and whack some 4by tyres on it - my mate did it and his car is awesome to drift in the mud - the only reason he likes 4wding. Quote
crazy_bunny Posted July 16, 2005 Report Posted July 16, 2005 LandCruiser 80 series are meant to be WAY better than the current model (100 series) off-road. They sell far quicker from used lots than 100 series models do, and maintain their value pretty damn well. There are HEAPS of mods available (HiLux's and 80 series are about equal in number of off-road mods available), but as they're a LandCruiser, while you can get performance bits (eg turbos and superchargers), they're more targetted at improving torque for off-road use and better highway acceleration. Id take a 100series over a 80series ANYDAY.... Aslong as its a 1999 model.... in 2000 they went from Live suspension to independant. live is a crappier ride quality and independant is bettor on road.. Its the same as used in any standard road car (ie commodore)... live offroad gives you more grip.... so in saying that if u went a 1999 model its as good as any 80 series, usally less kays, better condition(with alll the people that don't take them off road). All the suzuki range are great......... Ive had many of them as bush bashers and they just keep going.. Weve rolled them, hit trees, jumped them, taken them swimming and revved the tits off it for excessive amounts of time and they kept going... only problems ever had were suspension colapsed. after the swim it needed some cleaning, and the points went in one of em.... Quote
dysolve Posted July 16, 2005 Report Posted July 16, 2005 Ok here we go... I am currently building a 84 hilux for rock crawling. the following all depends on what you want to do with the truck. please keep in mind 4wding completly different to anyother type of driving just about everything is backwards the lower the gearbox gears the better solid (beam) axle is better the IDS ABS is dangerous Diesel is best for many reason's ,engine braking,low reving,low fuel useage and heaps more. the less electronics the better. the list can keep going bigger is not always better Sierra's are the best suziki's off road... more mod's available and there a dime a dozen, the new sierra is a jimny... they only down fall to the sierra and the jimny are the diesel motor is not available in Aust. do not buy a jimny made before 2000or the softtop they have an old engine in them. don't pay anything more the 5k for a sierra my 2000 model jimny is for sale I want $13000 for it but anybody from the rolla club can have it for $11500. do not buy a surf they are NOT the same as a 4runner EVERY thing is just about different. It would be easier to list what is the same then different. Hilux's/4runners are the best all round 4wd, theres heaps of them around, I would say the models with the 2.4D (2L) engine are the best but they are getting old now, Do NOT buy one with the V8 conversion done as the chasis WILL be bent (the engine is to heavy) and for the least amount of money you can have a great 4wd.. the basic setup is two inch lift kit with tough Dog shocks and old man emu spring and a set of BFG A/T tyres the size to buy is 15X10.50. these mods will cost less the 5k. don't pay any more then $10k for a 2.8 hilux/4runner but must have less the 200000km on the clock 60 and 80 series landcrusier are proberly the best of road but the cost an arm and a leg to fix, you will not get change from 10k for engine rebuild and not much change from 3k for gearbox rebuild. any 60 series is good but only buy an early model 80 series with beam axle, 60 series $8000 max 80 series $14000 max I have seen to many fancy 4wd broken down , I refuse to comment on anything Mitsu. if you have any further questions just ask me... regards dysolve Quote
Banjo Posted July 16, 2005 Report Posted July 16, 2005 The question is "4WD Which one is good ? This one ! :( :D :lolcry: Quote
dysolve Posted July 16, 2005 Report Posted July 16, 2005 value for money get a hilux.... for some fun get a sierra.... and for some thing thats better to drive get a crusier, just depends on what you want it for... Quote
dysolve Posted July 16, 2005 Report Posted July 16, 2005 all these pics you guys keep posting of normall cars turned in to trucks normally run the MQ Patrol chasis.... Quote
dysolve Posted July 17, 2005 Report Posted July 17, 2005 YOU ARE GOING TO BUY A SIERRA, do you want to know why? SUZUKI 4WD • Toyota Corolla 3K, 4K & 5K into LJ50, LJ80 & LJ81 • Toyota Corolla 3K, 4K & 5K into Sierra 4 speed model http://www.dellowauto.com.au/catalogue/DellowAutomotive.pdf Quote
Xany Posted July 17, 2005 Report Posted July 17, 2005 or this one....hehehehe the corollas use a sierra chassis Quote
demuire Posted July 17, 2005 Report Posted July 17, 2005 When I grow up, I want one of those :( Quote
Super Jamie Posted July 17, 2005 Report Posted July 17, 2005 how ironic, there's a dellow kit to put a 4k into a sierra too! nice pic :( Quote
KE30Coupe Posted July 17, 2005 Report Posted July 17, 2005 Hmmm a 5K powered suzuki sierra................I think I know what my next project is gonna be when I finish the Ke30. Now all I need to do is find a place to store it and convince the missus that it's a GOOD idea :( Quote
ancullen Posted July 19, 2005 Report Posted July 19, 2005 Is it possible to convince any 'missus' that fiddling with cars is a good idea? I must find me one that is so compliant! Quote
Redwarf Posted July 19, 2005 Report Posted July 19, 2005 Work out how often you're going of road with it. Work out how hard core off road you want to go. Work out how much you like comfort around town, and how often you drive around town. Early Hiluxs are uncomfortable trucks that have kidney belts that fall from the roof when you hit bumps. Sierras do it hard on the highway. Vitaras are nicer, nut you sacrifice off road ability. I own a DiD TD Pajero. :) Quote
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