Ke70 Project~mongrel 2

[Benno]

Basically I sold my pride and joy last year and bought a house(LINK to build-up). Now I've got the bug to build another one.

 

I put up a WTB add on here where redae71 quickly put me in touch with one of his mates who was selling a shell. Got a early KE70 with a silver-top sitting in it for $600(bargain), palmed off the 20V to a mate, now I'm left with a rough but Straight/Rust free shell, perfect canvas to work my magic on.

 

I'm a Bit of a fly-by-the-seat-of-pants type, but to start with the plan is:

 

SR20DE

SR/RB box

S13 front coil-overs

R33 Brakes all round

F-series Diff

Body braced and lightened as much as possible

 

This is how it looks right now. Only just stripped the insides out today. Want to get peoples opinion

on the whole ae86 kit thing. got a standard rear bar to replace it, but I'm kind of curious to see what it would looks like.

Edited January 16, 2010 by Benno

[redae71]

f@$kin wicked plans man will be watchin this closely and so will dayne (previous owner).... i still can't believe he sold it for 600 bucks lol.... ps, you have all the suspension and diff from my ca18 ae71 in that :) i got his wicked setup in it now :):):D

[Benno]

Yeah, was a pretty good deal.

 

 

Had some spare time today so thought id put the pedal block in start sorting brakes.

 

I have a full set of R33 GTST brakes(four pot fronts, two pot rears and master cyl/booster) so while is was putting the pedal block in I measured up the booster bolt patterns.

 

KE70 booster

R33 booster

Exactly the same, only difference is 10mm in the push rod length, lucky the R33 booster has enough adjustment

 

So, the car didn't come with a pedal block so i got hold of a KE70 cable clutch block

To Be Continued...

[Benno]

So KE70 pedal block is a bit of a wired choice when I need to run a Hydraulic clutch, but this one was free and I figured with engine bay real estate at a premium, the cable pedal block would be perfect for reverse mounting the clutch master cylinder under the dash.

This is the new master/booster all bolted in, removed the corolla's proportioning valve as the Nissan runs one off the master cylinder

 

I've also picked up a SR S13 crossmember, R33 steering rack and steering column which I'll try getting into the car. Crossmember measures up remarkably close.

also got some spare seat rails to disassemble and make up for some descent bucket seat.

But first I've got to wait till my mate takes this lump of crap out of the front of it.

[Sam_Q]

doesnt look like an SR20 to me! hehehhe

 

so a change of plans or is this a temporary step?

 

let us know if you need any conversion parts

[Undertaker_is_the_best]

man thats starting to look awsome and that new brake booster suit the firewall

well done

[Benno]

doesnt look like an SR20 to me! hehehhe

 

so a change of plans or is this a temporary step?

 

let us know if you need any conversion parts

 

Haha, no not quite a SR. The 20v anchor was left in there from the previous owner. a long adaptation of oil pressure switch, sender and temp had snapped the casting/thead into the oil stringer line clean off the block. my mate is going to weld it up and use the 7 rib bottom end for his Bigport project. Just waiting for him to come around and get it, otherwise I will have a silvertop garden gnome by the weekend LOL!

Edited October 5, 2009 by Benno

[Benno]

well, we got the motor out on thursday night and away to it's new home, didn't get too much done this weekend but now I've got some room to measure up the crossmembers.

first-up bolt spacing

both 140mm exactly

and between the rails

the S13 has both at 765mm

E7 has front bolt holes at 775mm and the rear bolt holes at 755mm

should be pretty simple to work with, problem to sort out this weekend is the rack. the R33 has a overall length (rodend to rodend) 1300mm

standard e7 rack is 1100mm, but I'll be needing somewhere around the 1200mm mark. won't be able to tell exactly until I've got the all the suspension in but i definatly need shorter inner rack ends to suit the r33 rack.

and I need to sort out 5 stud hubs for these puppies

[Undertaker_is_the_best]

hey bud not to bad so far looking forward to reading more as if progress well done :jamie:

[rolledup]

Keen to see some updated photos on this

[Benno]

Been slack, didn't post last week, to busy sourcing and moding bits and peices. S13 Hubs are off the spindels getting copied and made out of 4140 as a five stud, doubt I'll be able to break them.

 

Well at least measuring, drawing and calculating actually payed off so far. During the week I sorted everything at work and after lunch today i decided to dummy fit it all up.

I'm now running Import R31 inner tierod ends on the r33 rack to shorten it up(r33~270mm R31=150mm), I'll need spacers turned down out of hex bar to reach the outers(you'll see what i mean later)

 

removed the KE crossmember/rack/suspension/etc

 

then fitted S13 crossmember up

 

then dummied up the suspension using modded silvia struts(no spring, KE70 top, removed spring saddle) and MX83 control arm.

 

then fitted up the wheels and jacked the lower arm to ride hight position to get some measurements

 

Here's the gap I've got to make up, probably just turn down and thread some hexbar

 

I maybe a little biased but i think it looks fat

And my little splurge for the week. Picked it up friday night. she had a bit if a knock, but still running. got it bullshit cheap, came with inlet mani/injectors/etc just no turbo/exh mani.

Edited October 25, 2009 by Benno

[ke70dave]

far out nice project mate

 

i like the detail you are providing, makes for good reading!!

 

just a quick Q, what control arms did you say they were? mx83? cresider right?

 

i've got the s13 gear in my car, with s13 control arms. how do mx83 control arms measure up? lookin for some shorter ones, though I'm told R31 works too.

 

and what size and offset are those wheels you got on there? those guards don't look standard...

[Benno]

s13 are 350mm

the mx83(cressida) arms are 330mm

that should narrow your track down. It also eliminates abit of that awkward hub to control arm angle. I had dummy fitted s13 arms to my last ae71 but went with the MX83 arms(with AE71 crossmember). Haven't measured R31 units but they will be shorter as have used silvia arms in r31 for extra track

the guards are a good 2-3 inches wider, rims are 16x7 +35.

Edited October 28, 2009 by Benno

[ca18det_ae86]

this should be 1 mean machine after its done

I'm in the process aswell for a full engine swap .

[Rancher]

Hey Mongrel! Id be interested to have a look at this thing in person. So would my brother, just to see how you've gotten the S13 K frame and steering rack in.