Drums..anyone Still Running The Fronts On Ke10+?

[KeRoLLin]

And don't re-use old fluid!

 

lol sammo... only a few days old... can't be bad??

 

Anyhows.. so i pulled the rear left drum apart today... one of the pistons popped out too far that the rubber bit came off the cyclinder! So does this mean the whole cyclinder needs rebuilding or is it because of bad adjustment?? Can i re-adjust and re-use or because it's popped out means it's stuffed??

 

oh i hate drums now!!

 

Anyone done a rear disc conversion yet?

[philbey]

Nope but I'm hanging to see it done as well.....

 

Probably easier to drop in a disc rear end from something else.

[KeRoLLin]

Nope but I'm hanging to see it done as well.....

 

Probably easier to drop in a disc rear end from something else.

 

hell yeah.. if u have any ideas let me know! :lol:

 

i pulled the rear drums apart today again and fitted new cyclinders... springs and shiet everywhere.. adjustments to get it back on.. what a fkn nightmare lol

 

I HATE DRUMS WITH A PASSION! :cool: :dance:

[philbey]

Once you've done a few it's amazing how easy it becomes to disassemble and reassemble drums.

[Felix]

Drums aren't too bad. The springs can be a pain at times to get back on. Get an old screwdriver and file a V in it, makes things way easier.

 

I like on the ke1x models how the rear drums aren't self adjusting. Depending on the shoe adjustment, you can alter the brake bias to a degree. I found initially after going to a ke30 disc conversion, the rears would lock to early. Playing with the rear shoe adjustment fixed it.

[KeRoLLin]

yeah i guess it's not too bad after pulling it off about 5 times now!! lol i had too pull the whole left axle out first go coz the drum cover wouldn't come off.. thought that was how it was meant to be.. haha

 

i have about 3mm left on the shoes.. how low is too low?

[KEI069]

when there down to about 1mm its time to replace, a new set of shoes

only start with about 4-5mm.

[kexxxclub]

Drums adjusted correctly pull up better than the ke20 standard discs and brake calipers. As long as there is enough brake shoe lining left, and the drum itself isnt worn or, glazed or scored it should stop better than discs, hence why the use them on trucks .

 

I run them on my ke10. When i bought the car it stopped pretty average, but once check the linings and wheel cylinders, i then just adjusted them with the drums on. Its a pain to remember which way you have to lever them ( up or down) but thats why i had dad next to me to remember. We checked which way the open with the drum off then placed it back on . Mine stops awesome now. I will be leaving the car stock as down to the brakes.

 

Many peoples veiws differ on the subject of front drum brakes in vehicles. We all have our preferences, and different road uses and applications for our vehicles. I wouldnt recommend them for track racing lol

[Felix]

Drums adjusted correctly pull up better than the ke20 standard discs and brake calipers. As long as there is enough brake shoe lining left, and the drum itself isnt worn or, glazed or scored it should stop better than discs, hence why the use them on trucks .

 

I think you will find the main reason that the majority of trucks out there are running drum brakes, purely comes down to economics. From what I've read disc brakes for trucks cost about twice as much, aren't subject to nearly anywhere near as much fade and reduce stopping distances by about 40%. The Europeans use discs in the majority of trucks these days... the rest of the world is just a bit slower to catch on.

 

Why do you think Toyota fitted disc brakes to the sportier SL ke1x models? In fact they are the exact same sized discs as what the ke2x run.

 

I went from ke1x drums to ke30 discs on my ke15 many years ago. I found with discs the car stopped quicker from 100 kays, than what the drums did from 80. The discs had many times the number of stops in them before fade.

[philbey]

Yeh, it's economics for trucks like felix mentioned, a lot of the new stuff is disc now.

 

I'm yet to see a drum outperform a disc. Don't go thinking that the extra surface area of a drum gives you more stopping power.

 

And fade man. Fade. Like you've never before known haha.