Legality Of Engines

[smeetsy1]

This maybe a hopeless thread and could possibly be answered by a quick call to the motor registration office BUT being in the younger generation i want answers now.

 

Does anyone know the legality of engine upgrades regarding K series engines?

 

For example, if a ke30 with its registrated original motor (3K 1.3L) was swapped with a higher capicity engine (5K 1.5L) where do I stand regarding legality.

 

Will it be a regency task to make it legal?

 

Would it be the same as a 3K 1.3L to a 3tc 1.8L - no tolerance?

 

Is there a certain capacity that is allowed to be increased? or is there no tolerance?

 

If that makes sense, I would appreciate any knowledge!

 

Thank you, Will.

Edited July 29, 2009 by smeetsy1

[Raven]

You're not allowed any more than a 20% increase in capacity in SA apparently.

 

So 5K should be fine as its just under a 20% increase or thereabouts.

 

3TC is a no no. 1.3L vs 1.8L = way more than 20%

[smeetsy1]

What about the enigne number? firewall plate vs engine?

 

Thanks Raven

[kiahn]

you need to ask the DPI to change your numbers over, not sure if you need a new plate to go with it

[Raven]

Just need to fill in the form for change of engine number :D

 

Its not an engineered modification, so you wont need a mod. plate.

[seabiscuit]

I seem to think (know) 1.1 to 1.5 is more than a 20% increase. Cars that came out with a 3k stock can put in a 4k and

cars with a 4k stock can put in a 5k (legally). 1.1x1.2 = 1.32

[Raven]

I seem to think (know) 1.1 to 1.5 is more than a 20% increase. Cars that came out with a 3k stock can put in a 4k and

cars with a 4k stock can put in a 5k (legally). 1.1x1.2 = 1.32

 

1.1L = K engine

1.2L = 3K engine

1.3L = 4K engine

1.5L = 5K engine

 

Smeetsy has a 4K, so no problems there.

 

Should even be fine with a 3K, as I said before :D

[seabiscuit]

Forgot to mention... You just need to make a booking with the vehicle inspection place to say you're having a change of details (motor)

and they just need to check that it's in order!

 

I put a 5k in my KE70 and got the change of details done so that's how I know :D

 

This is for ACT. Might be different where you are.

[seabiscuit]

1.2 x 1.2 = 1.44.... Still can only go up by 1 motor at a time in K series if you want to do it w/o engineers cert.

[smeetsy1]

I don't have a 4k Raven.

 

Will ring the motor reg place tomorrow.

 

But it still sounds like a 3K to 5K may be possible.

 

Thanks, Will

[shonke]

5K motor is actually 1.486L - I know from when I put one in a Ke55. In Vic you can only go up 10% without an engineers cert.

[ke rollin 20]

Hey,

 

I'm slowly in the process

of changing to a 7k in my wagon,

i have put a 4k in as they come

out with 3k, but previous owner Also had a 4k in it so she changed it over on the papers,

 

don't think it was a problem,

 

but obviously the 7k conversion I will have to get it engineered if I wanna be legal..

 

My question is who do I ask to tell me what needs to be done to get engineered??

Or is it just the obvious like brakes??

 

Anyone no what else needs to be

done???

 

Cheers, Haydn

[smeetsy1]

Ring an engineering place haydo?

[junhung]

In Malaysia, you are allowed to 30-40% more... More than that you need to give 'undertable' money to the officer to legalize it...

[RA28GT]

I haven't bothered telling rego about a 5K upgrade. Maybe just change engine numbers so they match so if an officer gets real picky?

 

Unless they look at your car in detail they wont tell the difference if they popped the hood.