Ke10 Front End Info

[ke70rolla]

i just got a 1967 ke10 corolla a couple of months ago and plan to fit a 3vzfe or maybe 5vzfe v6 into it,wondering if anyone knows if there are bigger steering arms and struts from any other toyota that will fit(mk2 corona?guess)i have never built a toyota before and don't know much about transferable parts,also i was wondering if toyota ever used a commercial locked diff because mine is'nt welded but doesnt freewheel.i already measured the 6 and it will fit with a slight modification to the firewall.ill put up some photos before me mate takes it to straighten the body and then some afters.

I'm also aware the handling will go out the arse

[Rolliac]

Hi

 

Going to have to be straight with ya.

 

Search, search, search and then search some more.

 

Beware: KE10 is not for the ingenuitively challenged (and I may have just made up a word).

 

You might want to scrap the whole front end and start from scratch.

[ke70rolla]

Hi

 

Going to have to be straight with ya.

 

Search, search, search and then search some more.

 

Beware: KE10 is not for the ingenuitively challenged (and I may have just made up a word).

 

You might want to scrap the whole front end and start from scratch.

 

i should of mentioned this is by far not the first car ive built ive been maintaining cars since i was fiffteen and built my first one at about 18 the only thing i can't work on is autos, i am willing to scrap the front end.the only reason i posted here is on the off chance that there is something easily transfered i am willing to spend a couple of grand on rack and pinion on this car if it can't be done (already purchased a getrag),why would you incinuate that i am an idiot,this post was not helpfull in the slightest way.ANYONE KNOW FOR A FACT THAT IT can't BE DONE! now does anyone have a clue about the diffs in these things,i know that a few dato 1600s came out with the locker diff from the 510 pickup and thought toyota might have done the same back in the day.i can't wait to read the next fiffty posts

[phife]

The KE10 is an orphan in terms of parts being interchangable.

There are basic brake upgrades found in the Knowledge Base/FAQ link at the top of the page.

In terms of front struts, if you look at the base of the strut you'll notice it is a 3 bolt arrangement, nearly all later model cars have a 2 bolt setup.

Therefore straight swaps is not possible.

Swapping out the steering arms wont help much unless you like massive negative camber.

Swapping the lower control arm wont help either as this is a wishbone setup.

 

Therefore as mentioned, you may want to start from scratch for the front end.

 

As for the diff, again you'll find some info in the Knowldge Base/FAQ link.

No such 'locker diff' or LSD is known to exist for the standard KE10 diff, an upgrade would be advisable if looking to run a V6.

Some research will reveal suitable diffs, most of which will require shortening mods.

 

I tend to find this link very helpful.

[ke70rolla]

The KE10 is an orphan in terms of parts being interchangable.

There are basic brake upgrades found in the Knowledge Base/FAQ link at the top of the page.

In terms of front struts, if you look at the base of the strut you'll notice it is a 3 bolt arrangement, nearly all later model cars have a 2 bolt setup.

Therefore straight swaps is not possible.

Swapping out the steering arms wont help much unless you like massive negative camber.

Swapping the lower control arm wont help either as this is a wishbone setup.

 

Therefore as mentioned, you may want to start from scratch for the front end.

 

As for the diff, again you'll find some info in the Knowldge Base/FAQ link.

No such 'locker diff' or LSD is known to exist for the standard KE10 diff, an upgrade would be advisable if looking to run a V6.

Some research will reveal suitable diffs, most of which will require shortening mods.

 

I tend to find this link very helpful.

i was thinking from the beggining that i would probably have to change the majority like i said I'm willing to go rack and pinion and spend big on it,ill have 7K to set this car up when i sell a couple of commodores i got for cheap and am going to do it all except the body so it should be pretty easy.if a fifty year old bloke sent me a message (and he had ran toyotas his whole life) saying its impossible i would let this go,but since that has'nt happened anyone else want to put their two cents in.i just checked out some links on here and am pretty sure ill be on my own with this one,if i find a good setup ill let everyone know.got afeeling this project just went down a gear

Edited July 17, 2009 by ke70rolla

[Felix]

Yea, as stated the front end of a ke1x is a bit of an abortion. You can fine tune it a bit to handle handle better and fit slightly larger brakes.... But this is more suited to someone using a worked K series motor.

 

I'd say it won't cut it for what you are trying to achieve.

 

Have a look under the front of a ke2x (ke20, ke25). People have grafted the ke2x crossmember and suspension into ke10's before. You would have much more chance of success of bolting bigger struts/brakes to a ke2x front end, with a balljoint and steering arm change. Obviously you would need to adapt in the castor brackets, but it would be of minor consequence in the scheme of things with a V6 conversion.

 

Anyway something for you to possibly look into/think about. Best of luck with it.

[ke70rolla]

Yea, as stated the front end of a ke1x is a bit of an abortion. You can fine tune it a bit to handle handle better and fit slightly larger brakes.... But this is more suited to someone using a worked K series motor.

 

I'd say it won't cut it for what you are trying to achieve.

 

Have a look under the front of a ke2x (ke20, ke25). People have grafted the ke2x crossmember and suspension into ke10's before. You would have much more chance of success of bolting bigger struts/brakes to a ke2x front end, with a balljoint and steering arm change. Obviously you would need to adapt in the castor brackets, but it would be of minor consequence in the scheme of things with a V6 conversion.

 

Anyway something for you to possibly look into/think about. Best of luck with it.

cheers mate at least that gives me something to look at ive searched the net and found nothing i was 90% sure from the beggining that it will take serious effort but thats cool i got 12 months to get it on the road ill probably spend a grand just driving around looking.anyone interested in a 3vzfe/5vzfe can use 22r bellhousing on a w58 with adapter(ive been told this by a bloke using the same engine in a corona) or surf 4wd bellhousing and a supra box with a spacer in between to get the right length input(thought someone might like to know),or if you want to waste money buy a getrag should last for 20 years.i kind of wish i never thought of the v6 my original idea was a modded turbo 4age since its so easy to get power and cheap,but everyones got one and i can't change my mind once i decide on something.

[Rolliac]

You might find it useful to pick this guys brain (rbfrog). Send him a message perhaps. Haven’t heard from him in a while though.

 

Here is some of his topics:

 

 

topic 1

 

topic2

 

project thread

Edited July 17, 2009 by Rolliac

[ke70rolla]

You might find it useful to pick this guys brain (rbfrog). Send him a message perhaps. Haven’t heard from him in a while though.

 

Here is some of his topics:

 

 

topic 1

 

topic2

 

project thread

 

ill do that. i just got some time to have a good look at it,was thinking of reinforcing the existing wishbone then i noticed they are retained by cast iron so that will have go aswell the leaf spring is pretty cool though i bet you could get the front stiff as with an extra sway bar and do some mad smokies out of corners.