Ke70 Racecar Project

[David[RL]]

the problem with the engine leaning too much to left is that the extractor has very little clearance to the steering shaft...

so I think at full throttle they are going to crash...

 

I also considered buying cusco engine mounts that lowers the engine 1cm.. or maybe fabricate some new engine mounts that lowers the engine..

but if I lower it the starter will crash with the steering shaft..

[David[RL]]

 

got the car finished now.. was at a trackday yesterday..

had some problems.. alternator is dying and clutch is slipping..

I have a new trd 212mm clutch and pressure plate.. and a 212mm blacktop flywheel..

I only hope the trd clutch will hold..

 

another problem is that the car is so extreme.. it's scary to drive..

I had a video cam inside the car for a few laps.. so I will post a video later

I also think someone filmed the car from the outside

 

next trackday is 28. july

Edited August 10, 2007 by David

[7shades]

Dude... best sticker EVER :P

[AE25]

baahahaha haa that YOKOHOMO sticker is a crack up.. I'm almost dying with laughter AWESOME!

 

i've just read through everything for the first time and i must say I love how hardcore you do things yet in a rough kinda 'i-don't-give-a-shit' attitude. its great. I'm keeping track of how you go for sure!

 

hey you wouldnt happen to know roy fordelsen and sigve in norway with the te71 coupes?

 

also i think that if you plan on turboing the 4age or T engine that you swap to the w55/w57/w58 gearbox. there are 5 different shifter positions that come on the box and a couple are same/very close to where the t50 shifter is. i can give more info on that if you want it. i have a w55 in my ke70 and you would think it was made to fit. the diesel wagon ce71 has a w51 or w56 from the factory so the gearbox tunnel is designed to fit the supra box.

 

also juha's ta64 celica pic that is on axle stands.. did you happen to get that from the makela auto tuning website?

http://www.mat.fi/project1984toyotacelicaturbo.htm

ive been trying to save pics but because it uses flash player i can't find a way to do it. do you know how?

chur

 

oh also those alloy wheels off the te72 also come on the 1980 era ta40 ra45 ma45 etc celica's. there's 13" and 14" ones available

Edited July 1, 2007 by AE25

[David[RL]]

yes I know who roy and those guys are..

 

but I'm not into turbocharging.. NA super fast response is much better

 

I did ask hasselgreen, they wanted 5k usd for a complete FA head with valves, cams, etc.. so I'm interested in that..

 

have some brake problems I'm currently fixing, and it's the handbrake that makes the problem

I have some fancy bits for my handbrake, a sellholm valve, so I can use footbrake and handbrake at the same time..

but the guy I bought it from said I had to have a external reservoir for the handbrake pump

 

what happends is when you brake 10-20 times, brake light comes on.. and the brake reservoir on the firewall gets empty, and the reservoir for the handbrake is overfull.. = 5 liter brakefluid all over the floor :\

 

so the problem was to either remove the brake reservoir make a line from the master cylinder reservoir.. which to me looked like a stupid idea

so I just bought a bolt-on pedalbox assembly instead

 

well.. it didn't bolt on.. it was hitting the strut tower..

so I mounted the whole box in a 90degree angle

then mounted the pumps in a different angle:

 

I also changed the clutch master cylinder ( brand new from ebay )because that started to leak brakefluid too..

even more brakefluid over the floor.. could it be worse?

 

here's a picture from the handbrake system

with wilwood rear brake proportion valve

and sellhom valve

 

 

and since the stock 200mm clutch couldn't handle the power I got a trd 212mm clutch and presure plate

and also a blacktop 212mm flywheel.. I'm not sure how much less that flywheel weight.. but I will check before I change the parts

here's the clutch assembly with new release and pigot bearing

 

my old battery was a big 70Ah that weighted about 20kg

my new battery weight 5kg:

 

I also got some technotoytuning camber plates... they are no good for my use.. I've ordered new camber plates from cusco now.. should be her in not very long..

so the technotoytuning camber plates is for sale if someone wants them!

they are never used, just test fitted, etc

 

also got a adjustable panhard rod from technotoy,

 

I think he makes his parts for show, not hardcore-use

 

also I've started to sandblast the car, I love rust!

going to get it painted soon i hope

and I've contacted a guy that can make fibreglass fenders, hood, etc for me

I'm also going to swap to the old frontend, it weight 2kg less, but I'm not swapping to twin headlight setup.. why? because everyone else wants it..

 

also the car is so low now I had to buy a new jack, since I couldn't get my old one under the crossmember :\

 

 

also my rear dampers is starting to get worn out, I'm considering fully adjustable øhlins coilovers.. but they cost abit so I'll see what I do..

Edited July 28, 2007 by David

[Medicine_Man]

What is the difference between the T3 and Cusco adjustable cambertops?

[David[RL]]

T3 is for show cars

cusco is for race cars

 

 

that's the problem with t3 camber plates..

any more explaining necessary?

Edited August 1, 2007 by David

[David[RL]]

was changing to to the 212mm blacktop flywheel yesterday.. but offcourse one of the bolts would break inside the crankshaft#¤&/#¤

this is the second bolt that breaks.. ( I did break one last time I changed the flywheel also.. )

ARP is on the way!

[David[RL]]

got the arp flywheel bolts today so I mounted the flywheel and clutch

 

did also reinforce the pedalbox assembly, and mounted some brakets for the brake reservoir

and did get a T line for the brake fluid line so I can use the same reservoir for the rear brake pump and handbrake pump

next thing to do is make a heat shield, and make new flanges for the brake lines

 

 

I also got my magnecor plug leads, very high quaility..

and the cusco camber plates did show up in my mailbox

had to fabricate some parts to make my bilstein shocks fit, because stock shocks use 14mm nuts but I use 12mm nuts

you can see the black parts was included with the camber plates

 

also I have to make some new mounts for the lights, because I'm changing to the old front end

because my old fenders wasn't straight which was the new front end, and because the old front end is lighter by 2kg

 

[David[RL]]

to change the front end I had to cut a piece of the bracket for the new lights to get it fit because of some clearance problems, then I did weld some new new mounting bolts on it

I did modify it so the chassis remains untouched.. only the lights was modified

 

new(old) frontend finished!

 

I did also finish changing the gearbox

and adjust the front suspension by using a tape measure

(we recently got a 4wheel control adjusting unit in our garage, but it's not connected yet)

 

also I'm going to a trackday tomorrow

nissan 200sx club here in norway is organizing.. so I guess 90% of the cars will be 200sx

they won't have a change on the fast ke70 hehe, so I made up this to show them I'm laughing after I'm passing them:P

 

 

I did take a test drive.. to find out the thermostat is dead.. in locked position

I can't get a replacement soon enough so I'm driving without it..

might not be the best way.. since my radiator is way too big.. with 2 electric fans.. I had problems before with the engine not getting hot enough.. we'll see

[beerhead]

You're fitting these camber tops to your KE70 shell, right? They're designed for an AE86, that's why you need to swap them left to right side. The oldest trick in the book on an AE86 is to get AE71 strut top to get a massive increase caster. Fit AE86 strut tops to your car and you'll ruin the geometry if you don't invert the studs and fully re-assemble the unit.

 

Techno toy tuning sell camber tops for AE86 and AE71 or KE70 chassis. If your going to go bad mouthing a part, make sure you've actually bought the one designed for your car. I haven't heard anything but good things about the quality and durability of the T3 product line.

 

 

T3 is for show cars

cusco is for race cars

 

 

that's the problem with t3 camber plates..

any more explaining necessary?

[David[RL]]

You're fitting these camber tops to your KE70 shell, right? They're designed for an AE86, that's why you need to swap them left to right side. The oldest trick in the book on an AE86 is to get AE71 strut top to get a massive increase caster. Fit AE86 strut tops to your car and you'll ruin the geometry if you don't invert the studs and fully re-assemble the unit.

 

Techno toy tuning sell camber tops for AE86 and AE71 or KE70 chassis. If your going to go bad mouthing a part, make sure you've actually bought the one designed for your car. I haven't heard anything but good things about the quality and durability of the T3 product line.

 

 

I'm telling you and the other here because t3 wouldn't fix the problem

 

I don't have a AE71, the strut tops is the same, but originally they fit both ways

 

because some missalignment when t3 made up their camberplates they only fit 1 way.. and that's the wrong way

 

my cusco units is stamped LEFT and RIGHT.. and I mounted the left camberplate on the left side in the ke70

and that align PERFECT!, just like the origininal genuine toyota part

 

yes T3 makes camber plates for ke70 too.. but that's only for 79-81 ke70, not 82+

so if you are so smart to know this "old trick", you also know 1982 ke70 strut top is the same as ae86

 

t3-gabe is talking about the problem is that there is a different strut top for powersteering and non-powersteering.. thats bullshit

he is telling the AE86 strut tops has less caster because he wanted to give the ae86 people more CLEARANCE to the wheels

 

 

and WHY do you protect him.. ahh now I know..

[beerhead]

I'm not defending T3 if they're not willing to swap the product to a KE70 part, so don't make assumptions :D I'm trying to work out for everyones benefit what's going on here.

 

The image you provided is exactly what happens to an Australian delivered KE70 if you fit AE86 camber tops.

 

No KE strut top I've seen will fit both ways without ruining the cars geometry. I'm nearly 100% sure, in Australia anyhow, the AE71 and KE70 were not the same as the AE86 strut top.

 

Now you've got me wondering if the Cusco camber top on an AE86 ruins caster :P

 

What clearance would you change by changing the mount point for the shock? Front to back of the wheel?

Edited August 19, 2007 by beerhead

[irokin]

Now you've got me wondering if the Cusco camber top on an AE86 ruins caster :P

 

Cusco sell two types of strut tops for the AE86. Reduced castor and normal versions.

[David[RL]]

I'm not defending T3 if they're not willing to swap the product to a KE70 part, so don't make assumptions :D I'm trying to work out for everyones benefit what's going on here.

 

The image you provided is exactly what happens to an Australian delivered KE70 if you fit AE86 camber tops.

 

No KE strut top I've seen will fit both ways without ruining the cars geometry. I'm nearly 100% sure, in Australia anyhow, the AE71 and KE70 were not the same as the AE86 strut top.

 

Now you've got me wondering if the Cusco camber top on an AE86 ruins caster :P

 

What clearance would you change by changing the mount point for the shock? Front to back of the wheel?

 

ke70 has 2 different types of genuine toyota shock mount

ae86 has 1 type

 

the clearance problem t3 described was clearance behind the wheel, but that's just bullshit

the caster rods is adjustable, and that's the best thing to adjust if you don't have clearance, simply add some more caster and there is no problem..

 

if t3 didn't make them wrong by mistake.. why is the text-logo that says T3 upside down??

 

 

and another thing.. ke70 82-84 and ae86 stock strut mounts bolt up each way

if you mount the left side unit on the right side of the car you end up with less caster

 

but the bolts on the t3 unit doesn't line up at the same point as the stock toyota parts.. which removes the possibility to mount them both ways

the distance between the bolts are wrong

 

 

and to ironkin: yes I know.. I bought the one that's FIA approved for group A. which has stock caster

I don't know why anyone wants reduced caster..? it's not like it has very much stock..