Tail Shaft / Gear Box Confusion

[AJC]

Ok now I am confused :bash:

 

A little while ago I did an auto to manual conversion on my ke10. Original box was a 2 speed toyoglide. Original tail shaft has a input shaft for the gear box with 16 teeth.

 

So the gear box that I installed into the ke10 is a 4 speed K40. Not completely sure what model it came out of. I also have a second k40 box, both of which have a 21 tooth output shaft. Of course I didn't notice this until the tail shaft would not fit.

 

So I went to a wrecker today to source a tail shaft from a 4 speed manual ke2x. Dropped the tail shaft out and bugger me, its a 16 tooth output shaft!!! Not a 21 tooth like the two manual boxes I have at home.

 

So I am still at square one.

 

Questions are this:

What gear boxes do I actually have? I have looked at the box casting and there is no real numbers or marking on it. Is it possibly a 4 speed from a later model like a ke70?

Am I better off getting a new 4 speed box with the 16 tooth output shaft? or to search for the holy grail, a 21 tooth ke2x tail shaft (if such a thing exists)

 

Any help would be appreciated.

 

Anthony

[Taz_Rx]

Ke1X and Ke2X K40's both have smaller input and output splines than there later relatives, as you have discovered.

Everything after and including Ke30 have 21 spline outputs.

 

The easiest way to fix your ploblem would be to source a Ke30 or 55 tailshaft and modify it (assuming you need to shorten it) to suit.

 

There is probably such a thing as a XE2X 21 spline tailshaft........ It would be in a TE27.

[tojo2]

So unis of ke1x and ke3x are different, or can yokes be interchanged ?

[AJC]

Thanks for the advice...

 

So unis of ke1x and ke3x are different, or can yokes be interchanged ?

 

The unis on the ke20 tailshaft at the wrecker looked different (larger) than the unis on the ke10 tails shaft from the auto.

Edited June 9, 2009 by AJC

[Rolou]

Hi Anthony, I have done several auto to manual and vice versa conversions. The tailshaft from your automnatic has the right spline for a KE55 or KE70 5speed. Both gearboxes bolt straight up with a clutch plate change. These tailshafts have the circlip on the universal joints on the outside You can get a tailshaft to suit a 4speed KE10. the only thing to be careful of KE10 has a Japanese diff or a borg warner[plate at the rear] and the pinion flange are different sizes.If you go to a KE70 5 speed you will have to space the backmounting down about 2 1/2 cm to get floor clearance.

 

Cheers, Lou

[thomo]

use early ke30 manual, external uni clip yoke on your tailshaft

 

can we put that on the FAQ ?

Edited June 9, 2009 by thomo