sidewaysvc Posted April 15, 2009 Report Posted April 15, 2009 The fuel pump on my 4k motor was just drizziling fuel but now pissing out everywhere i havnt had a chance to have a close look what the problem is but i went to repco to get a new one and was VERY surprised at the $160 price tag which is $160 more than i paid for the whole car just wondered if there was a more updated pump sytem available and how simple is it to chuck in??? Quote
luke.t. Posted April 15, 2009 Report Posted April 15, 2009 The fuel pump on my 4k motor was just drizziling fuel but now pissing out everywhere i havnt had a chance to have a close look what the problem is but i went to repco to get a new one and was VERY surprised at the $160 price tag which is $160 more than i paid for the whole car just wondered if there was a more updated pump sytem available and how simple is it to chuck in??? try the wreckers for something cheap if not its only small should fit in your pocket....... could go electric like my car but will cost more and there is more fiddling about..... also try other parts distributors eg. bursons, global autospares, cheapa autospares etc etc etc a 4k fuel pump shouldnt be $160... Quote
sidewaysvc Posted April 15, 2009 Author Report Posted April 15, 2009 Yeah thats what i thought was goin to cost me f@$king heaps for a pesky fuel pump. So there is an upgrade but not as simple as two wired as such :hammer: Quote
coln72 Posted April 15, 2009 Report Posted April 15, 2009 Actually, the electric fule pumps I was using were that simple to fit. Mount, hook up one wire to an ingnition on supply and the other to earth. Put the fule line from the tank into the in side and the one that goes to the engine on the out side on the pump. If you really want to be tricky you could wire in a switch into the power supply and hide it somewhere so the pump doesnt operate when its switched off. Or have it hooked up to the oil pressure switch so if you are in a big accident, the pump will stop once the oli pressure drops. Handy if the ignition is still on (pump still pumping) and a fuel hose is split - or so CAMS says..... Quote
sidewaysvc Posted April 15, 2009 Author Report Posted April 15, 2009 Would that flood the motor cos the fuel pump now on the motor now is a mechanical pump now isnt it so would the new pump just keep pumping in fuel if the ignition is on eg when trial and error with an electrical problem stereo etc or not?? Quote
Rola Drifter Posted April 15, 2009 Report Posted April 15, 2009 Would that flood the motor cos the fuel pump now on the motor now is a mechanical pump now isnt it so would the new pump just keep pumping in fuel if the ignition is on eg when trial and error with an electrical problem stereo etc or not?? Not necessarily mate, if you want you could hook the electric fuel pump from ignition into a missile switch, then onto the fuel pump that way you can stop it pumping anytime & it acts as a kill switch also. If you do manage to get an electrical fuel pump, don't forget to get a fuel pressure regulator so you don't flood the engine :hammer: Quote
sidewaysvc Posted April 15, 2009 Author Report Posted April 15, 2009 any recomendations on pumps and regulators eg part numbers also cost Quote
coln72 Posted April 15, 2009 Report Posted April 15, 2009 Always used "Facet" or what ever they are called now. Small, light and easy to mount but mega noisy. Never ran a regulator and never had an issue in over 10 years. Used to hear the pump slow down once the system was pressurised. Tried a Holley Red pump once and removeded it pretty quick as it wouldnt suck fuel through if there was any sort of air in the system. The car would stop and I would have to reprime the system. Always removed the mechanical pump and fitted a plate over the hole in the block. Quote
Redwarf Posted April 15, 2009 Report Posted April 15, 2009 Always used "Facet" or what ever they are called now. Small, light and easy to mount but mega noisy.Never ran a regulator and never had an issue in over 10 years. Used to hear the pump slow down once the system was pressurised. Tried a Holley Red pump once and removeded it pretty quick as it wouldnt suck fuel through if there was any sort of air in the system. The car would stop and I would have to reprime the system. Always removed the mechanical pump and fitted a plate over the hole in the block. x2. I did however run a regulator, but that was because I had SU's, which are very sensitive to pressure. Quote
sidewaysvc Posted April 16, 2009 Author Report Posted April 16, 2009 Pros and cons of fuel electric pump? What will it cost me and will it be worth it for a daily Quote
LukeAE71 Posted April 16, 2009 Report Posted April 16, 2009 Always used "Facet" or what ever they are called now. Small, light and easy to mount but mega noisy.Never ran a regulator and never had an issue in over 10 years. Used to hear the pump slow down once the system was pressurised. Tried a Holley Red pump once and removeded it pretty quick as it wouldnt suck fuel through if there was any sort of air in the system. The car would stop and I would have to reprime the system. Always removed the mechanical pump and fitted a plate over the hole in the block. Interested in what you mean by mega noisy??? I am thinking of one of these for my fuel setup. Where did you have yours mounted and could you hear it constantly? These Facet pumps are supposed to be around the $30 - $50 mark apparently according to the guy at Autobarn who was trying to sell me a Carter one for $200. Oh we don't stock the cheap ones..... Quote
sidewaysvc Posted April 16, 2009 Author Report Posted April 16, 2009 So basicly any external pump will do?? :hammer: Quote
LukeAE71 Posted April 16, 2009 Report Posted April 16, 2009 (edited) You only need like 4 psi or so for a carby setup and the facet external pumps are rated at like 5 - 8 psi. I think you need a fuel pressure regulator though also on top of this. Still has to be cheaper than $160 :hammer: Anyway there should be like 14 million of these pumps on KE70's at U pull it. Edited April 16, 2009 by LukeAE71 Quote
coln72 Posted April 16, 2009 Report Posted April 16, 2009 You only need like 4 psi or so for a carby setup and the facet external pumps are rated at like 5 - 8 psi. I think you need a fuel pressure regulator though also on top of this. In my experience, based on over 10 years of experience, tells me that for a Facet a regulator will not be needed for a standard carby (or carbies in my case). Shame you were not closer as I still have two in the shed - used to get them for nothing from my old mans work :jamie: Interested in what you mean by mega noisy??? I am thinking of one of these for my fuel setup. Where did you have yours mounted and could you hear it constantly? Yes they are noisy. Could still hear it in my daily when it was mounted under the boot floor on rubber insulator things but it wasn't really bad. the radio would drown it out easily. Moved it from under the parcel shelf because of the noise. On my club car it didn't bother me so it was mounted solid to the boot floor, that was noisy but I didn't have any interior etc in that one. Quote
toyota_ae71 Posted April 16, 2009 Report Posted April 16, 2009 just finished my 2tg conversion in my ke70 and the mechanical pump shit itself, had a brand new 4-7 psi "facet" pump sitting at home. So went and grabbed that, wired it in and mounted it on the boot floor on the inside, i can't hear at the moment but that probably has something to do with i only have headers on it haha. pretty sure it only cost me $70 off ebay and $15 worth of fuel line. But yeah great pump and i would wire it to oil pump sensor and to a power source that is only on when the ignition is 'ON'. sometimes you forget the pump is on :yes: :jamie: lol. Cheers Quote
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