shauns ke30 Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 hay all i just put a 5k in my ke30 rolla acouple of months ago and i want to upgrage my brakes. i have ra60 strutes and calipers and i was going to put them on but I'm not now because of camber issues. i want to put ke55 brakes on but i need to no somethings???? can i just bolt the ke55 disks and calipers to my ke30 strutes???? or do i have to change the hole lot to ke55 calipers/strutes and disks???? cheers shaun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
styler Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 check faq section Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
towe001 Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 i have ra60 strutes and calipers and i was going to put them onbut I'm not now because of camber issues. What kind of camber issues ? Positive or negative ? Might have to try different length lower control arms. i want to put ke55 brakes on but i need to no somethings???? Don't quote me, but i don't think they'll fit the '60 struts can i just bolt the ke55 disks and calipers to my ke30 strutes???? Both the same. But the later '55 has better calipers. Ke70 is the same as well. The only really difference between the '55/'30 and '70 is the springs are skinners on the '70, their one sided only (left side will only fit the left side. Unlike the '55/'30) and the top hats are different. or do i have to change the hole lot to ke55 calipers/strutes and disks???? If your running ra60 struts. I'd keep them cause of the bigger and better brakes There is a thread or two on using the ra60 struts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camerondownunder88 Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 The backing plates on the strut that hold the caliper have different stud patterns on KE55 and 70 while KE30 20 and 10 are the same shape BUT KE20 and 10 used smaller bolts if that makes sense. To run KE55 girlocks on a KE30 you need ke30 backing plates and the ke55 caliper and disc. As ke55 and onwards the backing plates had 3 studs kinda even the 1 was off set a heap. So can't run KE55/70 backing plates unless you redrill them. Cheers Cameron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz_Rx Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 The backing plates on the strut that hold the caliper have different stud patterns on KE55 and 70 while KE30 20 and 10 are the same shape BUT KE20 and 10 used smaller bolts if that makes sense. To run KE55 girlocks on a KE30 you need ke30 backing plates and the ke55 caliper and disc. As ke55 and onwards the backing plates had 3 studs kinda even the 1 was off set a heap. So can't run KE55/70 backing plates unless you redrill them. Cheers Cameron I think you're going to confuse the poor boy and there is a little mis-information here also. KE30 and KE55 calipers are interchangable. So remove sumitomo caliper and directly bolt on the Girlock. Disc diametre and offset is the same. Brake lines are slightly different though, so you have to swap them too. '55 has the flair in the end of the brake line, '30 has the flair in the caliper. You don't need to swap the backing plates. Towe001 - He's not looking at fitting '55 brakes to a RA60 strut like I think you thought he was. :) I'd also agree the RA60 strut/brakes would be a better option than '55 brakes. What are the issues preventing you from fitting these? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falken_KE30 Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 also Towe youll find the KE70 Struts are shorter then KE30/55 ones.. Well atleast the ones i got are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shauns ke30 Posted March 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 It has mad positive camber with the ra60 strutes???? I just found out that i need 14in stocks on the ke30 coz 13in stockies will not fit over the ra60 brakes. But don't have the money to buy 14in stock with good tred!!! If i fit ke55 strutes/disks and calipers can i still keep my 13in stocks???? or do i also need 14in stocks. thanks. cheers shaun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
towe001 Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 (edited) As ke55 and onwards the backing plates had 3 studs kinda even the 1 was off set a heap. So can't run KE55/70 backing plates unless you redrill them. The leading pair of bolt holes on the backing plate are the same but the trailing pair are different locations. Top one is about 10mm higher, bottom one is a few mill lower. As seen from where the caliper is Towe001 - He's not looking at fitting '55 brakes to a RA60 strut like I think you thought he was. :) yeah, hehe also Towe youll find the KE70 Struts are shorter then KE30/55 ones.. About an inch and half shorter for the '70. But the springs are longer on the '70 Forgot that one. It has mad positive camber with the ra60 strutes???? Try some longer arms. Sigma ? You sure the rods on the shocks aren't bent If i fit ke55 strutes/disks and calipers can i still keep my 13in stocks???? Yes Edit - just cleaned up my comment a little. And bit like Taz said below, it'd be a downgrade in brakes going away from the '60 gear. Have a search around the forum there's a thread or two on the ra60 struts Edited March 12, 2009 by towe001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz_Rx Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 If i fit ke55 strutes/disks and calipers can i still keep my 13in stocks????or do i also need 14in stocks. thanks. cheers shaun You DON'T need to swap the STRUTS. Only the calipers and rubber brake lines. Some NEW discs probably wouldn't go astray either. :y: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shauns ke30 Posted March 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 You DON'T need to swap the STRUTS.Only the calipers and rubber brake lines. Some NEW discs probably wouldn't go astray either. :y: So its as easy as that taz_rx??? the ke55 disk just fits on the ke30 strutes same as calipers??? cheers shaun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shauns ke30 Posted March 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 Try some longer arms. Sigma ? You sure the rods on the shocks aren't bent Are you sure the sigma arm's fit????? the ra60 strutes i have do not fit on the stock ke30 arm's the bottom of the ra60 strutes do not mach the pattern on the lower arm's on the ke30. so i have the put ra60 strutes/disk's/calipers and lower arm's to fit in the ke30. I can't use the original ke30 arm's if i fit ra60's and they aren't bent!!! cheers shaun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz_Rx Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 Calipers have the same mounting positions so swap straight over, with there matching rubber brake lines. There's 2 different types of discs for ke3x and k5x, which are "local" and "imported". The only difference between them is the local ones are a bit thicker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falken_KE30 Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 Are you sure the sigma arm's fit?????the ra60 strutes i have do not fit on the stock ke30 arm's the bottom of the ra60 strutes do not mach the pattern on the lower arm's on the ke30. so i have the put ra60 strutes/disk's/calipers and lower arm's to fit in the ke30. I can't use the original ke30 arm's if i fit ra60's and they aren't bent!!! cheers shaun You can put a RA60 strut on a KE30 LCA. You take the Steering arm off the KE30 LCA, and put the RA60 steering arm on the LCA. From what played with lately. all the balljoints are same diamter shaft between corollas, corona and celicas of the same era Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickZ Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 Ive done RA60 struts into a ke30, the struts will give you positive camber, its in the angle of the spindle shaft to the strut, even if you where able to get them to fit the LCA, you need to extend either (ke30 ro ra60) LCA 10mm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falken_KE30 Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 think the sigma arms are 20mm longer then stock KE30 ones. So 10mm to fix the camber issue, 10mm more for extra camber :lolcry: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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