styles d Posted January 6, 2009 Report Posted January 6, 2009 (edited) What, sell the performance parts so other hoons can go faster??! That wouldn't be a bit of a contradiction... Well the other hoons would be going faster on the tracks built from the money produced from the sales. (assuming once car crushing had stopped, utopia was formed :y: ) Edited January 6, 2009 by styles d Quote
Budowski Posted January 6, 2009 Report Posted January 6, 2009 Great topic, in my opinion the government is using this as knee jerk reaction in some states (not long before we all are copping it). In the short term its shocking but still no lives are saved. cheaper to crush a hoons car than make young drivers that cause accidents that lead to death learn how to handle a 1200kg hunk of steel traveling at over 60km/h, which is at the end of the day is a lethal weapon in untrained hands. Driving a car and being handed a license should be a lesson at school. Correct me if you think I'm wrong but we all can get a license pretty easy and drive anything powerful money alowing so do the math a 17 year old behind the wheel of 500hp 2000kg car and mates in the back telling him hes a poofter for not trying to drift or do burnouts in heavy traffic. Thats where it all starts and the ones that survive end up modding cars and grab the attention of the police. mind you there are those of us as previously stated that mod our cars and don't act like dicks shouldnt have a problem. Quote
pnyk33 Posted January 6, 2009 Author Report Posted January 6, 2009 Street racing has been going on since they made cars. But the media/police have focused alot of there attention on imports and left the domestic morons alone I wonder what that is all about. Its profiling at its finest and noone gives a damn because most of us are younger and the cops like to abuse their power and intimidate. The sad part is the majority of us enthusiast do drive normal and blow it out on the weekend at the track. Its that old saying a few bad apples............ But I would love to see what they would do if someone in a highly modded domestic that was caught street racing as well you think they would crush that minty 68 Camaro. I highly doubt it they make more money off righting people in imports tickets for exhaust and altered suspension and all kinds of stupid shit while the muscle cars can shake my house when they roll by. But will crushing cars stop or deter street racing nope not one bit this is there alternative to opening tracks I suppose makes total sense........ Quote
orangeLJ Posted January 6, 2009 Report Posted January 6, 2009 Heres another thought for you all. Imagine you know that they will crush your car when a copper tries to pull you over, all your hard work and effort is going to be destroyed because they think you are a hoon just because you chirp the wheels changing gears, or give it a squirt off the lights (over dramatisation I know, but its possible) Hell, even if you are being a dick and having a line up with some other bloke, are you going to stop for the cops? or are you going to try and do everything in your power to keep your car? I know alot of blokes with cars the coppers would have a hard time catching, it sounds like a "I'm such a hard ass" thing, but its true, alot of young blokes (myself included) would probably try and run from the coppers to keep their car if put in that situation, whether or not its their own stupid fault. Also, one other thing, what happens if its not the drivers car? Do they still crush it? how do they determine if its owned by the person but just registered in the parents name or something? alot of legal avenues and grey areas, too many if you ask me. Thats why it hasnt been fully implemented in Australia Quote
Jason Posted January 6, 2009 Report Posted January 6, 2009 I never understood how they have the right to steal your car. Somethings really screwed up. Quote
LittleRedSpirit Posted January 6, 2009 Report Posted January 6, 2009 I believe in QLD they will crush it even if its not your car, as long as its your third time. I've also heard that most anything nice in your car will be stolen if its impounded and the cops wont take a report about the theft. So there's not much justice happening at the moment for motoring enthusiasts. Shits me too that people can drive around in loud as sin T bucket roadsters that they built with stick welder and a spare 351 in the back garden and a young person with their cap on backwards will get reamed over a nice, Italian made, woodgrain steering wheel. Quote
furryfrog Posted January 7, 2009 Report Posted January 7, 2009 it really is simple. don't drive like a retard. do so and be punished by the full extent of the law. if it means ur car gets crushed, then so be it. don't want ya crushed? oh wait were back at start. don't drive like a retard. cheers, scott Couldn't of said it better. Quote
SLW42 Posted January 7, 2009 Report Posted January 7, 2009 Shits me too that people can drive around in loud as sin T bucket roadsters that they built with stick welder and a spare 351 in the back garden and a young person with their cap on backwards will get reamed over a nice, Italian made, woodgrain steering wheel. damn straight those commondore an falcdog drivers aswell (the old school ones) with filters hangin out of the bonnet, i have the drama of gettin pulled over everytime i drive my car :y: i don't speed (often) but apparently my car is on the black list WTF is the point of havin a black list y not just pull every one with a set of wheels on there car over and defect them?? thats what it's turning out 2 be Quote
godlovesugly Posted January 7, 2009 Report Posted January 7, 2009 What, sell the performance parts so other hoons can go faster??! That wouldn't be a bit of a contradiction... its the driver in the wrong, not the parts, the parts are legal and can be bought anyway so i think they should make some money from these cars somehow. shit they could even paint them blue and white and have some half decent cop cars Quote
Lexxi[ke35] Posted January 7, 2009 Report Posted January 7, 2009 (edited) Yeah, I reckon the three strikes thing is good, only if they can be sure that the owner of the car was hooning. And Then stripping the car, recycling the good bits and destroying the performance parts. Or just taking out the performance parts and selling the car as it is without them, using the money to build tracks and stuff so they can race off the roads. Dickheads deserve to have their cars crushed if they're doing stupid stuff, but why waste a perfectly good car when someone else can use it responsibly? Just more trash to add to the rest of the mess on this planet. In Adelaide there's no public tarmac tracks where people can just race their cars or drift and have fun. Instead of improving AAMI Stadium [which really has no real need to be improved] they should spend the money on a track like that, in a safe environment away from the innocent people on our roads and so if they did come unstuck there would be paramedics or whatever there to help. It would stop most of the hoons from doing this on the roads. Ask a $20 admission fee, most people would pay it. Most of the people I know that drift and stuff on public roads say they wouldn't do it if there was a track to do it on. Makes perfect sense to me. Edited January 7, 2009 by Lexxi[ke35] Quote
philbey Posted January 7, 2009 Report Posted January 7, 2009 They're not talking about crushing cars because they are modified. They are talking about crushing them "if we can establish they are being used for the purpose of street racing". I have no qualms about it. Some of the dangerous acts people get away with street racing are phenomenal. They're talking about crushing the cars of those with total and utter disregard for the law, not the average joe bloggs who might squeeze the throttle off the line up to 65 then back off. Quote
orangeLJ Posted January 7, 2009 Report Posted January 7, 2009 That may be the case in the USA, with the new severity of "hoon" laws that keep being applied in the eastern states (Vic, NSW, QLD) they can charge you with hooning for alot of little, insignificant things. Like the most recent "hoon" story in the papers. seventy something year old guy was caught doing 170kms on a 100km/h road. The bloke is an experienced driver (attends alot of calder track days and most of the time tops the times) not that that excuses anything though, But why not charge him with the crime he commited? its plain and simple "excessive speeding" its not "hooning" sure he was speeding, sure there was another car behind him from the same car club, but why all of a sudden do we need even more legislation to clutter up the courts? Quote
SLW42 Posted January 7, 2009 Report Posted January 7, 2009 probably last yr my mate an his mate was travellin next to each other to find out were they were gonna cruise that nite and got pulled over bye the cops and fined for attempted street racing they argued the point till they were blue in the face with the officer but he didnt care just wanted to make money for his bonus Quote
orangeLJ Posted January 7, 2009 Report Posted January 7, 2009 should it really matter? I see people "race" each other every morning on the freeway, you know the old "speed up so that tosser flying down the left lane can't get over" thing (i agree with it most of the time, undertaking already speeding traffic isnt smart) The whole street racing thing is overused as a blanket term to cover an form of what they call "hooning" When I first got my torana on the road, I had my old man drive next to me in his ute at the same speed to tell me if the speedo was reading correctly or not, that was 4 years ago before "hoons" became a media debacle. doing the same thing now would probably lose both our cars. Everyone speeds, hell the average speed of traffic on the F3 between central coast and sydney is about 125-130km/h of a morning and of an afternoon. thats one big street race! Quote
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