Astron/saturn Motor Into Ke20

[Doogs]

Although I understand that; burnouts, powerslides etc are mostly due to driving style

(and not engine choice) I think that having something of that size aint the best idea.

(P plate driver + power on tap = :bash: problems)

 

I want to have an engine size that is well matched to the car.

 

eg. V8 rolla = nice power (drag and burnout weapon) but heaps of weight up front, so unless huge mods are made

to the suspension understeer could be a problem.

 

I am kinda thinking the same thing with an astron, power capabilities aint bad

but maybe a little heavy for a bloke wanting to run near standard shocks (to start with).

 

I think some of the best all round KE20s are the ones with an engine that produces

a reasonable amount of power (not stupidly large) but is also either not to heavy

or has suspension that can cope with it.

 

I want this to be a fun streeter that heads to the odd hillclimb, not a huge powerhouse.

 

I would like to have traction under normal driving conditions and the capability to lose it, rather than

so much power I am spending the whole time trying to gain traction.

 

So I think something that is below 2L has plenty of potential to suit my needs.

[philbey]

Dougal, you'll find you'll be able to get yourself into enough trouble even with your little 1300 k motor.

 

When the rains come past, head down to braeside or scoresby or some other similar industrial area at night and throw that sucker sideways. Then when you get bored, upgrade the motor!

 

ahh, garden boulevard braeside......

[Doogs]

Dougal, you'll find you'll be able to get yourself into enough trouble even with your little 1300 k motor.

 

When the rains come past, head down to braeside or scoresby or some other similar industrial area at night and throw that sucker sideways. Then when you get bored, upgrade the motor!

 

ahh, garden boulevard braeside......

 

 

Thanks for the tip philbey :dance:

 

I have been thinking that i will be running the 3k till about november and then drop in

a 4/5k.

 

I only really mused with this idea because my mate has been twisting my arm about

going nuts in the engine department for a while. (and he has said he can get me a saturn for dirt cheap)

 

I think that a mild k will do my job fine for the moment, but still thought it would

be interesting to look at a few ideas for the future.

(this really is just a big brainstorming thread !)

 

Cheers

[KE26 Wagon]

I had a 5k in my old Ke20 and that was plenty for getting sideways whenever i fealt the need. Even picked up both wheels doing a burnout, gotta love heat welded diff's

 

Bang for buck you can't go past the mighty 4/5k i reckon. Although as I stated before do not underestimate the power that can be made from the humble 2.6 astron motor.

[white_sandshoe]

Good to see people entertaining ideas... That's how great things happen... someone has the idea, and may well be crazy enough to try it.

 

Feel free to share any more thoughts, ideas or theories with us! I know I sure appreciate hearing about them...

[Des]

My 3tc with a 32/36 weber and extractors can swing donuts and slide very well with the trd 2 way so maybe a 3tc with some mild work ?

[strola]

Dougal,

 

If you need to know anything about the Chrysler saturn motors, the mitsu saturn motors, the mitsu syrus motors or the mitsu astron motors pm me. I run a Galant with a 2.6L and have also run a GB Galant qith a very very hot 4G32 (1600) If you are lucky you can find a 4G37 (1700). If you look hard enough you will find the stuff. There are a few gottas but all in all these little this run really nice. My 2.6L has run a best of 14.3 down the quarter and is realistically a stock motor. I have not played with it and it is quite fun. You can EFI the stuff but you will need a number of thing to happen. Your biggest issue I can see is the fact that the exhaust will change sides on you.

 

Let me know if you need more encouragement.. :P:

 

Cheers

 

PS: I know a sigma running a 2.6L with a stupidly large cam (bigger than most v8 boys) and makes 195kw at the treads running quad throttle bodies and N/A. Also runs on normal pump fuel. You just need to wake up the old girls.. :lol:

[Corolla1]

Hey all,

 

I am considering putting a Mitsubishi Saturn or Astron motor into my KE20, because

I may be able to get one dirt cheap.

(and know that parts are plentiful, along with a nice power output)

 

I have had a search, and was not surprised that there were no matches.

 

Could anyone who has had experience with these engines PM me ?

 

I am trying to find out a few things about the conversion, so it would be great to chat

to someone who has had experience with these motors.

 

I understand that engineering will most likely be necessary (if i am to keep it all legal).

 

Thanks,

 

Dougal

 

 

i am not convinced with the astron.

they are a good engine.

they are gutless though

there are better engines out there

maybe 4a

maybe 5k??

 

thats just my opinion

[Des]

I think a 4G32 is a waste of time, My 4k went harder and was quicker. My mates 2.0 sigma does 120kph in 2nd and its stock, Does a flat 18s 1/4 mile pass and it completely stock with gearbox rattles.

 

2.6's have torque. In stock form 6,500 rpm seems to be the max. They pull around 1400kg pajero's and nearly 2000kg of car trailer and car allright.

Edited September 4, 2008 by AE70

[KE20rollabus]

I run a 74 LA lancer witha 2.6 astron engine in it, these engines arent to be under estimated, apart from timing chain issues :) they make cheap horse power. my engine has 290 duration cam, heavy valve springs, magna big port roller rocker head, adjustable cam gear, 34 ADM weber, and tuned lenght extractors with a straight through 2.5' exhaust, and 5sp gearbox. it will rev easily to 7000rpm and i havent broken anything yet.

 

As for saturn 1600 4g32 engines, i have owned several galant in my time and these engines are very reliable cheap and if you get a good one go very well. My stock 4k is gutless compared to these engines, but is still a tidy little unit.

 

my opinion with your ke20 is to go for the 4G32 they are a good little engine and i have measured up my corolla for one. The only prob i saw was the standard 4sp jap galant box or 5sp jap box are too long for the KE20.

 

hope this helps

cheers loran