Raven Posted April 26, 2008 Report Posted April 26, 2008 I used to detail with no swirl marks for a dodgy Holden dealership :yes: Quote
Matt-e30 Posted April 29, 2008 Report Posted April 29, 2008 Argh - electric buffers, perish the thought! So many new cars getting about with a nice swirl pattern in the paint thanks to the old electric buffer! Good old elbow grease, can't go wrong.... the problem there with new cars and swirl marks is generally from too heavy of a cut and not glazing after with a foam glazing pad, this happens because of lazy detailers, also with alot of used car dealerships that do their own buffing do really quick jobs with really harsh pads as alot of detailing products are not available to the general public, and are available through business contract basis only (company's such as AutoSmart and Omikron) as they only deal with bulk orders. A good detailer can rotary buff without leaving swirl marks. Its all about technique and using a high rpm compound. Exactly right, if you go to fast over a panel you are most likely to come up with swirls, lowish speed and slow movent over the panel is the best with a light to medium pressure on the buff, or start off with a medium pressure and work back to a low pressure, just don't move too slowly or the panel will heat up very quickly and can/ will burn through the paint, or burn compound onto the panel (can be annoying to get off) and if at a high speed and you start burning the compound it can leave claw marks/ crows feet type marks in the paint. i detail for a new and used car dealership in sydney and have NEVER let a new car leave with swirls.. as i would no longer have a job LOL.. if anybody has any questions about detailing feel free to ask away.. if you need any tips etc: Cheers Matt Quote
Raven Posted April 29, 2008 Report Posted April 29, 2008 (edited) My detailing work for my best friend last year for Toyoshow 2007 before she passed away. I managed to snare 3rd place in the Original to 1999 Class and snare her 2nd place for the Matrons of Modified Class. Edited April 29, 2008 by Raven Quote
Matt-e30 Posted April 29, 2008 Report Posted April 29, 2008 My detailing work for my best friend last year for Toyoshow 2007 before she passed away. I managed to snare 3rd place in the Original to 1999 Class and snare her 2nd place for the Matrons of Modified Class. not too bad.. its a shame there is that scrape on the front bar kinda ruins the good work would have looked pretty seemless if it wasnt there.. i have never taken any photos of my details just off the mobile usually when i do an aston or bently .. will have to find the camera and start snapping cheers matt Quote
philbey Posted April 30, 2008 Report Posted April 30, 2008 brake fluid? yeah thats an awesome idea, coat her in brake fluid wipe her off and repaint haha could be a little inhibitive given the price though ahahah! I know there's plenty of good techniques to rotary buff, its just that there's plenty of muppets not using those techniques! I've used a good buffer with great success too, but I still see heaps of swirly black cars kicking around! Quote
Raven Posted April 30, 2008 Report Posted April 30, 2008 not too bad.. its a shame there is that scrape on the front bar kinda ruins the good work would have looked pretty seemless if it wasnt there.. i have never taken any photos of my details just off the mobile usually when i do an aston or bently .. will have to find the camera and start snapping cheers matt Yep, she bought the car like that though and never got a chance to fix it. The car has been sold off now anyway which was sad to see it happen, but her money-hungry mother would never just hand her daughters best friend the keys over without paying double what the car was worth. Hopefully the new owner doesnt kill it. Quote
Matt-e30 Posted May 1, 2008 Report Posted May 1, 2008 Yep, she bought the car like that though and never got a chance to fix it. The car has been sold off now anyway which was sad to see it happen, but her money-hungry mother would never just hand her daughters best friend the keys over without paying double what the car was worth. Hopefully the new owner doesnt kill it. always a shame.. also swirls can be from dirty pads, i always wash my pads before buffing.. once i have done half the car and the pad seems to start sticking a bit from having too much compound in it (from using lots of compound on deep scratches).. detailing new cars can almost be as bad as detailing used cars cause half the time they are damaged from transport.. had a rangerover vogue that had been put on the bottom level of a car carrier and the top level resting on the roof (left nice scratches had to sand half the roof then buff really carefully.. got many great storys from day to day work.. and some of the dodgy things that happen at new car dealerships.. Cheers Matt Quote
Raven Posted May 1, 2008 Report Posted May 1, 2008 Yep, dodgy used cars is where its at for these dealerships. - Spray paint under the guards to give it that "gloss new car look". - Spray paint boot mats to cover up stuck grass that can't be vacuumed out. - Selling an ex-clipsal pace car with 5000km of thrashing as an "ex-demo model". The list goes on really :rocknroll: Quote
Matt-e30 Posted May 6, 2008 Report Posted May 6, 2008 Yep, dodgy used cars is where its at for these dealerships. - Spray paint under the guards to give it that "gloss new car look". - Spray paint boot mats to cover up stuck grass that can't be vacuumed out. - Selling an ex-clipsal pace car with 5000km of thrashing as an "ex-demo model". The list goes on really :POSTPICS!: hahha sounds like some of the storys i have heard and seen before, one detailing shop i worked at (not going to name it) had a used car come in with grey carpet that had afew marks in it that wouldnt come out and carpet looked ratty etc: out came the seats and they sprayed the carpet black (obviously was done there alot as they missed all the dorr trims etc which was also grey) i must admit it did look ok at first but i can imagine it wearing and looking rediculous, one sales person smacked a door of a new 08 model volvo at the end of 2007 that was going out that day to the customer which left the door a bit munted so they grabed a door from the 07 model then noticing that they were different in shape had it sent to the panel beater to have the hinges moved so it would sit right and had moulds swapped over from the door of the o8 onto the 07.. then off to the customer.. sure they probably still wouldnt have a clue that the doors have a slight difference etc etc: got many more.. Quote
Doogs Posted May 6, 2008 Report Posted May 6, 2008 Brake fluid.....great paint stripper that ! I'm sure you could sell some of these ideas, just need a good name "How to detail a car, for bogans. " Quote
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