Johno Posted March 11, 2009 Author Report Posted March 11, 2009 (edited) You shouldnt have to rub the bumper right back, by the time you plastic prime, and then filler prime them (if you did) It should/would've filled in the texture of the bumpers. If you didnt plastic prime the bars thats why they fry'd up like they did. There was a reaction between the raw plastic and the paint you used. I didnt use plastic prime. All i used was 2 pack primer/filler undercoat. It seems to stick pretty well, the paint has something to stick to now. I knew they would fry up a bit but i guess thats what you get when using 80grit. :) When i sprayed it the bumper just soaked up the paint like a sponge and flaired up. I left it for 5 mins, came back and put on another coat and it seemed to cover ok. I just hope i havent f@$ked it Edited March 11, 2009 by Johno Quote
Johno Posted March 15, 2009 Author Report Posted March 15, 2009 I just got back from a 3 day camping trip and my carport has been flooded :( Everything that was touching the ground has got 2" of mud on it including all my freshly painted doors and panels :lolcry: And this is my sitting area, right now i have my feet in mud :laff: Quote
Budowski Posted March 15, 2009 Report Posted March 15, 2009 Ah that sucks dude, i too know whats it like to have limited prep space and then the weather doesnt play nice. So any damage it mostly just clean up ? Quote
Johno Posted March 16, 2009 Author Report Posted March 16, 2009 Ah that sucks dude, i too know whats it like to have limited prep space and then the weather doesn't play nice. So any damage it mostly just clean up ? Yeah just a clean up :lolcry: I have always had this in the back of my mind that this would happen. Thats why I always keep tools and power leads and anything valuable off the ground. Every time it rains, I always check the gutters on the driveway and clean out anything but because i was away i couldn't help it. I'll just get everything out this week and pressure clean it all. No big prob :laff: Just got to find the time now. I need to find a new house so i been a bit busy lately. Quote
RollaBus_4agze Posted March 25, 2009 Report Posted March 25, 2009 Wow dude, shows how long I havent been on here :) Looking sweet as dude... Feel so damn sorry for you about the bog-hole you have going on there :jamie: Stick with it tho man... I can see this turning into something really hot :dance: Moe Quote
Johno Posted March 25, 2009 Author Report Posted March 25, 2009 Cheers Moe :) Ok just so I'm really clear with this guide coat.. 1. I filled as much as i could then primed 2. I sprayed on a fine black speckle coat of paint 3. Wet rub with 320grit and block and guide coat remains where it needs filler. 4. Fill up dents and sand filler with block 5. Prime and guide coat again? Is that right? Quote
SLW42 Posted March 25, 2009 Report Posted March 25, 2009 sucks about the mud puddle that you now call a workspace that bits ass still power through it and you will see results Quote
KE30_KE35_KE55 Posted March 25, 2009 Report Posted March 25, 2009 Cheers Moe :) Ok just so I'm really clear with this guide coat.. 1. I filled as much as i could then primed 2. I sprayed on a fine black speckle coat of paint 3. Wet rub with 320grit and block and guide coat remains where it needs filler. 4. Fill up dents and sand filler with block 5. Prime and guide coat again? Is that right? that will work ok. It will be quiet obvious the low spots will be black. make sure you use a flat board to sand. Quote
Johno Posted March 26, 2009 Author Report Posted March 26, 2009 that will work ok. It will be quiet obvious the low spots will be black. make sure you use a flat board to sand. Yeah the low spots are real obvious, can't belive how well it works actually. There was this dent on the roof that i always saw, thinking to myself "when i paint the car i'll fix that" but when i stripped the car and primed it i couldn't see it any more. Sanded the guide coat off and there it was. I been using metal filling blade's and a heavy rubber block sander. Seems to be working ok but i find i have to keep filling again and again over the same spot. I'm using K+H Stop putty. Its bright red and stinks but dries hard as nails's and sands real fine too. Quote
towe001 Posted March 26, 2009 Report Posted March 26, 2009 When KE30_KE35_KE55 said about a flat board to sand with he wasn't far from the right idea. What you need is a board of around 400mm long and about 45mm wide, firm but soft enough to form to the shape of the body your sanding back. Their either called a "speed file board" or a "longboard". Some have a thin (5mm or so) stripe of foam running the length of the board, some don't. Might be able to make your own from a length of the plastic type cutting board found in most kitchens. A sanding block is good for general sanding back etc but not so good in what your wanting to do in filling in the low spots and knocking off the highs, a longboard would be a better idea. The longboard "floats" over the top of the low spots missing them knocking down the highs where as the sanding block will fall into the lows and "run up" the highs. Quote
KE30_KE35_KE55 Posted March 26, 2009 Report Posted March 26, 2009 When KE30_KE35_KE55 said about a flat board to sand with he wasn't far from the right idea. What you need is a board of around 400mm long and about 45mm wide, firm but soft enough to form to the shape of the body your sanding back.Their either called a "speed file board" or a "longboard". Some have a thin (5mm or so) stripe of foam running the length of the board, some don't. Might be able to make your own from a length of the plastic type cutting board found in most kitchens. A sanding block is good for general sanding back etc but not so good in what your wanting to do in filling in the low spots and knocking off the highs, a longboard would be a better idea. The longboard "floats" over the top of the low spots missing them knocking down the highs where as the sanding block will fall into the lows and "run up" the highs. yes thats the idea just don't use anything too soft or plain paper. I have seen paint jobs with finger marks from sanding without a block. Quote
Johno Posted March 27, 2009 Author Report Posted March 27, 2009 Thanks for the tips :( I used a plaster's trowel for some things to try and get a flat fill rather than a fill that will go over the highs and into the lows. Also a plaster's sanding pad (80x220mm) I can see both sides to what your saying, its quite hard not to use the little rubber block (65x120mm) because the car is so round. I will try and find a large flexible sander. Something that cannot flex length ways but 10% flex on its width (if that makes any sense) On other news.. I found a wicked new house and i'm moving this week starting as soon as i finish writing this post. I am leaving my corolla here at mums for now because its a great place to work on it and all my tools are here and i know where everything is. On the terms and conditions of the lease agreement its says "no unregistered cars to be on the property" I wouldn't care if it was a whole car but being a rolling shell i think there would be a problem. I have moved closer to the city and i am going to pay my mum a little bit each week to keep my corolla here until i can move it. Its about 25km drive to get to my mums now. Quote
towe001 Posted March 27, 2009 Report Posted March 27, 2009 One of those plastic kitchen cutting boards with slots cut into it should do the trick if you either can't find one or not willing to fork out the 20 or 30 bucks for one Quote
KE30_KE35_KE55 Posted March 28, 2009 Report Posted March 28, 2009 On other news.. I found a wicked new house and i'm moving this week starting as soon as i finish writing this post. I am leaving my corolla here at mums for now because its a great place to work on it and all my tools are here and i know where everything is. On the terms and conditions of the lease agreement its says "no unregistered cars to be on the property" I wouldn't care if it was a whole car but being a rolling shell i think there would be a problem. I have moved closer to the city and i am going to pay my mum a little bit each week to keep my corolla here until i can move it. Its about 25km drive to get to my mums now. Do you think the 25Km trip could slow the project progress down a bit? Quote
Johno Posted March 28, 2009 Author Report Posted March 28, 2009 Do you think the 25Km trip could slow the project progress down a bit? How could it slow down any more? :) Yeah it might slow down a bit, but on another note it might be quicker because i wont have my computer there anymore to distract me when i could be working on the Rolla. Quote
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