200Boy Posted December 10, 2008 Report Posted December 10, 2008 Yeah, its the corolla gearbox. I probably will get rid of it anyway and put my 4ac gearbox on it. The gearbox thats on the 4age is not crash hot, crunches 2nd and sometimes 3rd. The 4ac one had just been serviced and runs fine. I think the 4ac gearbox has a lower ratio so quicker acceleration aswell :D Sorry to burst your bubble but the c50 (4ac box) has a lower ratio final drive which means it will have slower acceleration and a higher top speed. Also whats the benefit of running the twincam hubs over the singlecam ones?? Quote
Bowler Posted December 11, 2008 Report Posted December 11, 2008 Also whats the benefit of running the twincam hubs over the singlecam ones?? I shouldn't think too much, but it means you can run later model suspension gear - aka, sx/gti front setups, etc... Quote
Trev Posted December 11, 2008 Report Posted December 11, 2008 (edited) There is a difference between single cam and twincam front struts/hubs, The hole sizes are different, Here are a few pics i took. The twincam bolt is the top one, To run twincam hubs i'd advise to use the twincam ctrut otherwise the bolts slops on the strut. EDIT: Pics not working. Edited December 11, 2008 by Trev Quote
200Boy Posted December 11, 2008 Report Posted December 11, 2008 Well I ran twincam struts in my singlecam seca. Didn't notice any difference in fitting apart from the strut tops on the twincams are 4 stud instead of 3 :D Also none of those pics work for me. Quote
Trev Posted December 11, 2008 Report Posted December 11, 2008 Well I ran twincam struts in my singlecam seca. Didn't notice any difference in fitting apart from the strut tops on the twincams are 4 stud instead of 3 :D Also none of those pics work for me. Trust me they are different, Here are the pics again: Twincam ones are alot bigger. Quote
Johno Posted December 11, 2008 Author Report Posted December 11, 2008 (edited) As bowler said, I want to put sx springs in and maybe koni's. Not too sure about the gearbox, I been thinking that the 4ac and 4age gearbox might be the same ratio's. My 4ac when it was running went to about 30km/h in 1st, 4age goes to 40km/h in first. The reason that the 4age goes faster in 1st is because the engine rev's to 7.5k instead of 6k rpm. Thats my theory anyway :) Bit of an update: Cleaned both engines with the new Karchar pressure washer that i just bought. Removed the aircon, power steering pump, starter motor, thermostat and few other bits off the 4age, getting ready to swap the gearbox's over. Been busy tonight body deadening the car. I painted bitumen paint over the floor and internal panels on the car then sticking dyno mat everywhere. Its not really dyno mat but looks like the stuff and works the same. It cost me $112 for 10 meters by 220mm roll. I'm saving as much as i can to pay for the spray painting. Especially around this time of year when i still have to buy Crissy presents and go away on a holiday with a group of mates, and i don't get paid for holidays cos I'm a sub contractor. I have also been painting bits and pieces on the engine. Heat reflectors, engine mounts, brackets and thermostat. I want to paint the cam covers the same colour as the body colour. Here's a few random pics of stuff i been doing. Boot before sound deadening Black Bituman paint Dyno Mat stuff (bunnings style) lol. :D Nissan X trail sandy colour, The colour i picked to paint my car Oily 4age Clean 4age, just after pressure washing Engine mounts (4ac ones are painted) Chromed up the bolts 4age vs 4ac Edited December 11, 2008 by Johno Quote
200Boy Posted December 11, 2008 Report Posted December 11, 2008 C50: AE82, AE92 (All), AE101 w/ 4A-FE) MR2 Mk1a Gear Ratios: 1st: 3.545 2nd: 1.904 3rd: 1.310 4th: 0.969 5th: 0.815 Reverse: 3.250 final drive: 3.722 C52 1986 on?: ae82 4age, ae92/3 4age, ae102 w/ 7A-FE, ae101 Silvertop 20v (1st generation), MR2 Mk1b gear ratios: 1st: 3.166 2nd: 1.904 3rd: 1.310 4th: 0.969 5th: 0.815 Final: 4.058 Quote
greenmac80 Posted December 12, 2008 Report Posted December 12, 2008 wats the price diff from bunnings to dynamat?? what do you reckon the diff in sounds deadning is gonna be?? Quote
Johno Posted December 12, 2008 Author Report Posted December 12, 2008 C50: AE82, AE92 (All), AE101 w/ 4A-FE) MR2 Mk1aGear Ratios: 1st: 3.545 2nd: 1.904 3rd: 1.310 4th: 0.969 5th: 0.815 Reverse: 3.250 final drive: 3.722 C52 1986 on?: ae82 4age, ae92/3 4age, ae102 w/ 7A-FE, ae101 Silvertop 20v (1st generation), MR2 Mk1b gear ratios: 1st: 3.166 2nd: 1.904 3rd: 1.310 4th: 0.969 5th: 0.815 Final: 4.058 Thanks for the info, is the top one the 4ac box? I'm not sure about keeping the 4age box still. It does crunch second and i have a heavy duty clutch and a machined flywheel on the 4ac and the gears go through silky smooth cos i got it serviced not too long ago. Just don't want to be chucking out a perfectly good working gearbox. Its hard enough to get rid of the old 4ac engine, especially when it went really well, some guys thought i was running a 4age in my seca on a cruise coz it kept up with other 4age's. Quote
Johno Posted December 12, 2008 Author Report Posted December 12, 2008 wats the price diff from bunnings to dynamat?? what do you reckon the diff in sounds deadning is gonna be?? I got no idea, a mate of mine works in the car audio trade and said my way is heaps cheaper than the real stuff, I don't know how thick dynamat is but my stuff is about 2.5mm thick and its really sticky tar stuff, It sounds like its deadening the sound coz there is less echo in the car, feels more dense and when i tap the panels it doesn't sound all tinny like it used to. Heres a warning i didn't get told before, don't use scissors to cut it cos it stuffs them and watch out for the sharp edges on the matting, i have a deep slice in my finger that happened about 1 hour ago Quote
Johno Posted December 12, 2008 Author Report Posted December 12, 2008 (edited) Another quick pic of tonights work. Thats one roll used, proberly need another 2 rolls so aprox $350 total. I'll proberly wait to do the rest coz i really need to scrape up all the cash i can for the respray. Edited December 18, 2008 by Johno Quote
Johno Posted December 21, 2008 Author Report Posted December 21, 2008 Small update, removed both gearboxes of the motors and cracked the shits with the rust, can't get rid of it! I'll clean out the bell housing then paint the box in silver, engine block will be black and cam covers same colour as body ( depending if i can get it in high temp paint ) Quote
RollaBus_4agze Posted December 22, 2008 Report Posted December 22, 2008 Hey mate... Looking good buddy! Regarding your cam covers, a mate of mine painted his in normal 2pack about 3 years ago and its holding up fine! So you should be able to get away with it without having to use high temp paint :bash: Keep us updated, Moe Quote
Johno Posted December 22, 2008 Author Report Posted December 22, 2008 Cheers for the advice Moe :bash: , might just paint it with the 2k! That's one less thing to worry about now, lol. Quote
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