Thoughts....

[Rolla__Boy]

Please read

 

I personally think this is a little harsh considering the person is a new member...perhaps a nicer way of letting them know these things might be a more intelligent way to go about it hey?

 

and also, you want to be a bit specific. People may need to calculate postage

 

I'm sure if someone has what he needs, he can provide them with specific details to work out postage...perhaps he doesn't want his post code posted on a website for all to see?

 

This may be the most inappropriate post this week

Sorry dad?

 

 

I understand the fact that the rules need to be enforced...but this is more of a public humiliation than a nice way to welcome and teach new members...Perhaps he has never used a forum before, and didn't realise that when the page f@$ks out and he presses submit over and over that it posts several times...I know I didn't know that before I joined this forum...and had, after 11 posts, someone written this in this manner to me, I would not have come back to the site. Without new members we do not continue to grow....with harsh silly worded mod posts like this...we do not encourage new members, and look like some other nazi law enforcing sites that I wont mention...rules are rules yes, but people are entitled to make mistakes...try teaching instead of acting like his father when he's been a naughty boy...I mean, he just wants some parts...I'm sure he didn't mean to be a "triple threat" to the rules and be shut down in such a nasty way.

Edited January 22, 2008 by Rolla__Boy

[Raven]

I will agree its not just this post that I've seen some unfair or incorrect decisions made.

 

We were all new once...I think a little bit of leniency needs to be used in the future for new members, :thumbsup:

Edited January 22, 2008 by Raven

[Murd 55]

yeah i have seen several unfit mod reactions. alot of people are new and don't know things like hittin the button will double post they think its frozen and wont or something.

 

i can even say ive done it a couple times myself. i can also say ive posted wrong section but ive worked it out and tried to fix it.

 

i think that the moderators need to lighten up a little on their power especially with newer members who arent as experienced as some individuals, i mean what does it hurt to tell just tell them what they did wrong so as they can fix it and try not to make the same mistake again and not just lock the thread instantly.

 

its like yesterday. i was in a game on a internet server and i had rates set wrong. (which i found odd as they were all default) i asked the admin to tell me what they were meant to be and the codes to change them and he just kicked me. twice. so i couldnt fix them as i had no idea the codes or what they were meant to be. once again a 'moderator' just doing what he is meant to do with out caring about helping the person instead.

[Trev]

Where do i sign up :thumbsup:

[KE555k]

Being a new member myself, I've noticed this a fair bit around here. Now I'm not normally one to point fingers, not at all actually. But I'm going to make an exception this time because i believe it is in the best interest as we're all represented through this site, whether it be to the public, people just browsing the forums, or to people looking to sell/and get involved with the site.

 

Now of course this isn't just a problem with the moderators, there's some rude and sometimes un-necessary posts coming from general users, HOWEVER, how can be blame anyone for being this way when our moderators. ie. the ones we are being monitored and moderated by, are abusing their power and treating people in this way in the first place.

 

Lead by example as they always say? Well how about we get a decent example being shown by the moderators for a start so there is something to follow.

 

As i mentioned above i don't normally point fingers, but from day one i've noticed that LittleRedSpirit was abit abusive in his role, always quick tempered and first to tell someone they've done something wrong, i don't know whether this is an over-active power-trip or just someone whos tired correcting other peoples mistakes, but if it is they latter, then how about passing on the moderation role to someone who has a bit more empathy and patience, after-all this is a community forum, we are trying to BUILD a community here and represent ourselves in the best way we can, all i see this type of behaviour doing is deterring both new AND old members from posting.

 

Just my two cents. :thumbsup:

[irokin]

The rules are written in a somewhat harsh manner in an attempt to remove conjecture however they were not intended to be enforced quite as such. Its not a power trip and I make damn sure that doesn't manifest itself within the moderating team. That is the reason I have a policy of not taking on people as moderators if they ask for it. In my experience people that ask to become moderators are the absolute worse moderators. NONE of the current global moderators asked.

 

Moderatings an absolutely thankless job and the only time you get mentioned is when others percieve you're doing something "wrong". The majority of the heavy moderating is the for sale area and this has been in response to requests by users for more organisation (i.e. better post structure, location, wanted area etc). It would appear that maybe the balance has swung too far to the heavy side.

 

Geoff you know full well this could have been taken care of via PM with myself so I get the feeling you have an alterior motive here.

[Rolla__Boy]

Talking to you about this via pm...would not have gauged the public opinion on the subject...I wanted to see if anyone else agreed with me...I have also attempted to speak with you on msn about this...but you never seem to be online. It would appear that my feelings on the subject are shared. So no matter what happens, it is going to have a positive outcome.

 

Redwarf moderates the for sale section too, and closes alot of threads, but he does it in a less attacking way, I doubt ANYONE on this forum would have a problem with the way he handles himself.

 

I have had a problem with the way alot of threads had been handled by LRS...but said nothing, but when I read the one this topic is about, I felt it necessary to say something...LRS has also seen to be arguing with people in other threads...which is fine, so long as he doesn't use the extra power he suddenly has to win arguments.

 

Yes enforce the rules...Yes make people put locations, as it obviously helps...Yes I understand this isn't an easy fix problem where one answer solves everything....But as far as I am concerned...YES something needs to be done about this particular problem, and as I said, it would appear alot of people agree with me.

[KE555k]

I'm going to have to agree with Rolla__boy here, i understand that he could have simply sent you a PM and possibly resolved the matter, but that would'nt have uncovered that this problem ISNT a once off and hasnt just been noticed by one member, it's also proven that this is no kind of personal vendetta, as more the one member shares the same view.

 

In the short space of a day, there has been 3 people already sharing experiences they have, I'd hate to see what this thread would unveil if it were open for a week. I really don't think that this is anything personal, any type of attack, but really shouldn't be taken lightly, as a group that gets represented to the public through stickers and advertising on cars and across the web, it's an important thing to keep peace and good-will up amongst the members of the club, because just remember what makes rolla club such a success and such an informative and useful place to visit is that there's such an abundance of people sharing views and experience as well as their knowledge, It'd be awfully sad to see this good reputation tarnished by one stray moderator.

[Raven]

Well said champ. :thumbsup:

 

I don't post that regularly on here because I feel the place lost its...I don't know.....friendly feel since ownership changed hands.

 

I've been here nearly 3 years, and I myself would also like to see this place grow and be a more friendly and relaxed environment to post in, not having to tippy toe around moderators that are "trigger happy" so to speak.

[KE30_KE35_KE55]

Well said champ. :thumbsup:

 

I don't post that regularly on here because I feel the place lost its...I don't know.....friendly feel since ownership changed hands.

 

I've been here nearly 3 years, and I myself would also like to see this place grow and be a more friendly and relaxed environment to post in, not having to tippy toe around moderators that are "trigger happy" so to speak.

 

I must say the treatment Of newbies on a number of occasions left me wondering about the Selection criteria for moderators, the PM process would be better

[Trev]

I love the way that Red handles for sale threads But id like to ask if its possible if the Mods/Admin's could do what i have seen AE70 (Des) do on ke70.com and that is post a reply of:

 

"YOU HAVE 24hrs TO ADD YOUR LOCATION BEFORE YOUR THREAD IS DELETED"

 

I know that if i was a newbie again and for my first post i did a forsale post and someone came along and just closed it i wouldnt be happy with the club and would probably not use it.

[Medicine_Man]

If you use the proper forum etiquette when making a post and follow the rules in the first place, The general forum goer has nothing to worry about. I feel it is in no way appropriate for people who put their own time into moderating this forum to send pm's to every forum goer that is to lazy or stupid to follow the rules. It is easy to sit on the other side of the fence and be overly critical of what the moderators here do but put yourself in our shoes, Sometimes you have to get your point across and don't want to sit arguing via pm's (We can't be here 24/7, we all have a life and better things to do). I think we have an exceptional forum with trivial politics compared to other forums I know of. If you see something that does offend you, then fire off a pm or email to an admin and you will get a response in due time.

[camerondownunder88]

I say harder rules more public harassment and run it more like a brutal regime. Only way new people learn.

 

But I must admit I joined used the search feature read rules and enjoyed it. I like the old RC and the now RC. I mean on some old members we love kinda grew away from RC raven but I mean we all move on etc at times I'm just happy we still have RC I like it.

 

But yes thread was harsh. I think the server Ben might be able to confirm this is running slower maybe due to people using more bandwidth? So people are clicking more on post so we see 3. I say jsut delete thread and then leave one.

 

I do like Reds moding of the sale section but. I mean do you post a trading post add and say car for sale $400 no you add a number of contact a location there basics you learn this in Primary school well I did. So no don't give people 24 hours LOCK it or delete the tread. I mean I hate opening an add seeing a good item no price no info don't mind no pics as some are big so better to PM etc But yeah no mercy I say but maybe keep the public abuse to a min just locking is good.

 

Oh I also can't spell good so I know how he feels But I got a plug in for Firefox to help me so there is still no excuse for that well unless we for get to use the plug in..lol

 

Cameron

[Medicine_Man]

Locking the thread is the best thing as deleting it in the past has caused people to get all fired up..

[Des]

If you use the proper forum etiquette when making a post and follow the rules in the first place, The general forum goer has nothing to worry about. I feel it is in no way appropriate for people who put their own time into moderating this forum to send pm's to every forum goer that is to lazy or stupid to follow the rules. It is easy to sit on the other side of the fence and be overly critical of what the moderators here do but put yourself in our shoes, Sometimes you have to get your point across and don't want to sit arguing via pm's (We can't be here 24/7, we all have a life and better things to do). I think we have an exceptional forum with trivial politics compared to other forums I know of. If you see something that does offend you, then fire off a pm or email to an admin and you will get a response in due time.

True that.

 

But there is no need to be harsh unless they are being a prick then you can go skitso.