Cabinetmaking Apprenticeship.

[LittleRedSpirit]

Hello everyone. I'm just putting the feelers out to see if there is anybody in the Western districts of Brisbane who is interested in becoming a Cabinetmaker.

 

My business has grown to the point where we would like to hire a young person to train in the ways of our business. If you enjoy working with your hands, have your own transport, and wish to work in a relaxed and friendly envirinment with bosses aged 26 and 23 then shoot me a PM.

 

Our business is located just next to Hattonvale on the Warrego Highway. It takes me 50 minutes one way from Indooroopilly. Its all on the highway with no traffic jams ever due to travelling outbound in the morning, then inbound in the arvos. We are between 25 and 30 minutes drive from Ipswich depending on where you are in Ipswich. Its a pretty standard commute time but its all cruising on the highway therefore easy on fuel!!

 

 

Anyhow, we do kitchens, bathrooms, shops, offices, wardrobes, entertainment units, car audio boxes, doctors surgerys, basically anything we like as far as work goes.

 

If you are young, energetic, good with your hands and want to work in a Corolla friendly environment with young car enthusiast employers, please shoot me a PM.

 

Matt

[Redwarf]

Don't want the job, but I'll remember what you do for future reference.... :y:

[LittleRedSpirit]

So no-ones keen to learn skills to pay bills? Ill open it up to older people too since the government will pay you what the apprentice wage won't.

[HRV-00S]

Wow!!!! You'd think people would jump at an apprenticeship these days. I'm 25 and applied for an apprenticeship in June of this year, there were only about 15 people apply for 2 jobs and about half where not to keen as "smart/casual" doesn't mean trackies. They narrowed it down to three of us and ended up putting us all on, all tho it took nearly 6 months to get an answer from them. I thought there would be 100's of applicants for the jobs

[Des]

Wow!!!! You'd think people would jump at an apprenticeship these days. I'm 25 and applied for an apprenticeship in June of this year, there were only about 15 people apply for 2 jobs and about half where not to keen as "smart/casual" doesn't mean trackies. They narrowed it down to three of us and ended up putting us all on, all tho it took nearly 6 months to get an answer from them. I thought there would be 100's of applicants for the jobs

People want the job they just don't like apprenticeship wages, Some people can't afford to go down to apprenticeship wages.

[kangaroosa]

People want the job they just don't like apprenticeship wages, Some people can't afford to go down to apprenticeship wages.

The government kicks in with extra payments these days. You also get an $800 tool allowance after a certain period of time.

I am a shopfitter, and we have a 2nd year apprentice at work. He was taken on from scratch. He is on a decent wicket clearing $400/week. Not bad considering a few years ago it would have been around $100 less from memory.

Your employer has the option of chipping in with school fee's if he's keen to keep you onboard. So its really not all that bad to be an apprentice.

[Des]

The government kicks in with extra payments these days. You also get an $800 tool allowance after a certain period of time.

I am a shopfitter, and we have a 2nd year apprentice at work. He was taken on from scratch. He is on a decent wicket clearing $400/week. Not bad considering a few years ago it would have been around $100 less from memory.

Your employer has the option of chipping in with school fee's if he's keen to keep you onboard. So its really not all that bad to be an apprentice.

I work 38 hours and get $260 a week. $800 doesn't go far with tools.

 

Keep away from All trades QLD/Group training Australia.

[kangaroosa]

I work 38 hours and get $260 a week. $800 doesn't go far with tools.

 

Keep away from All trades QLD/Group training Australia.

$800 is enough to buy two 14V Makita cordless drills, a chisel set, hammer, rubber mallet, and a few small hand tools. Which is more than enough for a first year apprentice to get started. Considering their main duties will be running board through an edge bander and cleaning it up for a qualified cabinet maker to assemeble. Or loading and unloading of the CNC.

P.S. The boss supplies the broom and shovel too. :yes:

Our apprentice works a min of 45hrs week and anything around 60hrs is not uncommon some weeks.

 

Its a great opportunity for anyone interested to get a foot in the door and start knocking off the years until decent wages are available.

 

Has the job been advertised elsewhere, or is just the Rollaclub community that hasnt snapped up this opportunity?

Edited January 2, 2008 by kangaroosa

[Des]

I can't do over time unless some one else does it and they don't do it very often so thats my excuse. I would be getting paid more but All trades QLD takes about 1/3 of my pay.

 

I'm lucky, I haven't touched a broom at RACQ :yes:

[HRV-00S]

People want the job they just don't like apprenticeship wages, Some people can't afford to go down to apprenticeship wages.

 

 

Yeah I hear that, I've got a family to support but I've also got family to support me which helps. I would avoid group training at all cost as well. I finish my current job this Friday and start my fitter/machinist apprenticeship with Rail corp on the 21st January and I can't wait. Yeah it's gonna be a hard road in the short term but you've gotta look at the big picture.

 

Being a mature (if you could call me that) aged apprentice I get $2000 tax free in 4 $500 installments which should cover us for rego on the cars. I also get the tool allowance after 12 months as well as a few other things here and there and my wife will be entitled to parenting payments? or something along those lines. If all else fails we'll just have some more kiddies to get the baby bonus. Free money :yes:

[KE30_KE35_KE55]

I got $3.18 an hour as a first year Apprentice In 1990 you do the hard yards at the start, I have Friends from trade school now earing $100,000 plus PA.

 

When I was 3 years out of my trade I was earning $54,000 Pa My girl friend at the time was a clinical laboratory technician 4 years at university 4 years in the job she was still Only earning $32,000 pa.

 

 

I highly recommend getting a trade.

[camerondownunder88]

Remember Des apprentice wages at some jobs aren't good first year etc. But you can't walk in at a company at position CEO ( not in all cases here but most) so you have to at least make a start. Most apprentices clear min $250 a week after tax easy if your at home and life is cheap this covers if your not it is a stretch. As stated above wages are improving. As I'm about to finish first year and am clearing just under $400 a week so all companies vary I mean in the end you are to them an unskilled worker so they really shouldn't have tp pay u millions straight up.

 

I didn't use a group training organization at all to do mine. There crap but they do make less paper work.

 

As for tools $800 is a start and if your boss is keen he will buy you your snap on roll around and fill it so you get in working faster and that as $800 will be enough for basic spanner set and Allen keys etc enough for the aviation industry initially. But the only grudge I have about this $800 the third year guy at work he still hasn't got it....so really don't hope to spend it straight away.

 

And HRV-00S I think that 2 grand all apprentices can get it but for me it is spaced out over 2 years and I get a grand at the end of every year. So weird that you get it in 4 lump sums must be due to having a family as u need some cash more/faster.

 

But Littleredspirit you will find some one out there. Have you tried ringing a few local high schools before school ended last year? Or are planning to in 08? As my high school in Ipswich now and then put int eh notices company XXX seeking workers apply at office. a few always usually went. So this could turn up some talent fast if you want.Just ask them to place n add or something or tell the grade 10/12 students. That is one option saves paying news paper adds when most kids don't read the paper etc.

 

Cameron

Cameron

Edited January 2, 2008 by camerondownunder88

[LittleRedSpirit]

Still no-one whos suitable has been found, any one out there who wants the big bucks (eventually)?

[LittleRedSpirit]

$800 is enough to buy two 14V Makita cordless drills, a chisel set, hammer, rubber mallet, and a few small hand tools. Which is more than enough for a first year apprentice to get started. Considering their main duties will be running board through an edge bander and cleaning it up for a qualified cabinet maker to assemeble. Or loading and unloading of the CNC.

P.S. The boss supplies the broom and shovel too. :fuzz:

Our apprentice works a min of 45hrs week and anything around 60hrs is not uncommon some weeks.

 

Its a great opportunity for anyone interested to get a foot in the door and start knocking off the years until decent wages are available.

 

Has the job been advertised elsewhere, or is just the Rollaclub community that hasnt snapped up this opportunity?

 

 

Couldnt agree with you more, Kangas.

 

Has been in the paper, no takers. We tried the high school thing, no good. The teachers refused to recommend anyone in the grade.

 

Tried TAFE too, all the prevos were useless.

 

Thought Id stand a good chance of finding someone who is a little like-minded and possibly already good with their hands by having a dip here on Rollaclub.

 

To no avail so far...

 

 

 

Most important to us is that the person is motivated from within, and willing to come in and learn each and every day.

 

There would be no free passes, regardless of age. We had to earn it, so will you.

 

That said, if we can find someone who is ready and willing to accept the shit paychecks to start off with, and get over it, we can provide you with so much more than money in the long run.

 

 

Its very hard sometimes for a young person to commit to something wholeheartedly enough to follow a 4 year process through to the bitter end. By the same token it can be hard for an older person to break the mould so to speak, with their work habits, social habits, and families needs all on their mind.

 

We need someone who will look forward to the day they finish, not payday.

 

It could be anyone, male or female, old or young.

 

The right person is the person willing to commit to the process and start their education in good faith.

 

If you will never accept the money you will never be taught the skills, simple as that. I accepted the money when I was 21 and living in Brisbane for the first time. Now I accept more than my fair share of money, from the work I co-ordinate and do each day.

 

Sadly, it seems that most people would rather keep the money their on, even if its crap, just to avoid needing to go through a lifestyle change and a pay cut, despite the massive long term benefits of being a tradesperson.

 

Invest in yourself. Do an apprenticeship.

[Jono]

i started an apprenticeship when i was 21 (sparky) and i'm now 27, and running my own business.

 

so i highly recommend it.

Edited January 13, 2008 by Jono