projectKE10 Posted December 11, 2007 Report Posted December 11, 2007 It does, but it also takes a considerable amount of skill to hold a perfect line on tarmac whilst simultaneously applying the correct measures of brake, throttle and steering... Every driving disipline requires skill, just in different regards. I have respect for drifters in regards to their ability, but I see it as a limited ability, and its not 'racing' in the purist sense... more a showy display of car control for spectator benefit. Which is fine, don't get me wrong.... but it bores the shit out of me. Yes i agree with everythin you said esspecially "respect"... everyone should be respected if they can do something well... no matter what it is. Everything takes skill and practice and everyone has different interest hence you getting bord by it but atleast you respect them for their abilities... unlike someone who just calls them noobs (whatever that is) like a few posts ago... yes that ford driver should be called a "noob" for doing what he did around pedestrians but not a bad driver... Sounds to me like he's potentially a good driver and needs to get his FORD out on the track not a busy street. Quote
projectKE10 Posted December 11, 2007 Report Posted December 11, 2007 So much hate projectKE10 come on embrace the love :P Eh i don't drive much, nor do I have a car that I would want to drive fast (volvo :D) I like the mechanics more. Sorry mate got a bit angry Quote
beerhead Posted December 11, 2007 Report Posted December 11, 2007 Ahhaha! Into the personal attacks like that. You're all class. I would love to see your skill's I bet you'd drive circles around me, then you'd roll over and have to change hand :P Most people probably find the way you carry on abrasive, ffs just give up with the pissing contest, wtf are you trying to prove? So your guna call drifters (blokes that do one of the hardest motorsports out there) "noobs"? Well first of all whats a noob???????????? Secondly, if you weren't an alchoholic (beerhead), you might be able to get out there and attempt getting your car into, and holding onto, a full blown one handed fishtale, and then you would find out its not as easy as it looks. And thirdly """'if you've taken the time you might have read""" that i agree that he shouldn't of done it around all the pedestrains and parked cars. Quote
Trev Posted December 11, 2007 Report Posted December 11, 2007 (edited) Tend to agree.... I will say it can be entertaining at times, but it takes alot more skill to keep a fast car straight through a corner than it does to steer with the back wheels I might just add something without all the bullshit, I'm into all forms of motorsport but one thing I have noticed is that some drifters can take some turn's sideways alot quicker than some circuit racers can straight, That has to be skill. Edited December 11, 2007 by Trev Quote
Teddy Posted December 11, 2007 Report Posted December 11, 2007 i have a theory. VN Drivers are directory proportional to the profits of forestry workers. Telegraph polls anyone? That is all Quote
LittleRedSpirit Posted December 11, 2007 Report Posted December 11, 2007 (edited) I generally don't think a specific type of "make" of car should brand someone a "n00b". What about volvos, I'm yet to see a person in a volvo who drives at the speed limit consistently, can park, and has peripheral vision. There are no exceptions. lol @ jasons volvo. Edited December 11, 2007 by LittleRedSpirit Quote
projectKE10 Posted December 11, 2007 Report Posted December 11, 2007 Ahhaha! Into the personal attacks like that. You're all class. I would love to see your skill's I bet you'd drive circles around me, then you'd roll over and have to change hand :P Most people probably find the way you carry on abrasive, ffs just give up with the pissing contest, wtf are you trying to prove? Look I'm not trying to prove anything. I just don't appreciate people bagging out drifters and not recognising their ability. Some of my good friends are drifters. Over it. Quote
LittleRedSpirit Posted December 11, 2007 Report Posted December 11, 2007 Look I'm not trying to prove anything. I just don't appreciate people bagging out drifters and not recognising their ability. Some of my good friends are drifters. Over it. If they drift on public roads they are hoons. Drifters do it at the track. don't brag about that stuff on here. Quote
LittleRedSpirit Posted December 11, 2007 Report Posted December 11, 2007 So your guna call drifters (blokes that do one of the hardest motorsports out there) "noobs"? Well first of all whats a noob???????????? Secondly, if you weren't an alchoholic (beerhead), you might be able to get out there and attempt getting your car into, and holding onto, a full blown one handed fishtale, and then you would find out its not as easy as it looks. And thirdly """'if you've taken the time you might have read""" that i agree that he shouldn't of done it around all the pedestrains and parked cars. If you knew the shit that Beerhead can do behind the wheel you'd shut your yap about what your friends can do. If your calling him a noob that just tells me that you are indeed none too familiar with the Rollaclub community. On another note, if a boxer kicks your ass in the street, thats assault or gbh, right, but if you take a fight and step into the ring with him, then its a sport. Same thing goes for drifting, I can't believe you would defend the person I saw, sight unseen, on assumptions you have made. Just done your first fishtale and not crashed? When you going pro, surely DA will call you this week when they hear about it. Sorry to flame you dude, but enough is enough. :D :yes: :P Quote
Jason Posted December 11, 2007 Report Posted December 11, 2007 It's true.... :D It does tend to go over the limit :P Quote
LittleRedSpirit Posted December 11, 2007 Report Posted December 11, 2007 I might just add something without all the bullshit, I'm into all forms of motorsport but one thing I have noticed is that some drifters can take some turn's sideways alot quicker than some circuit racers can straight, That has to be skill. I think drifters can look faster while racing, due to them being well past the ragged edge and sliding, but whether or not its faster to corner that way is a matter for the stopwatch. If this were truly the case wouldn't circuit racers be practicing drift techniques to gain better lap times. Cue the commentators: " ....and Lewis Hamilton, passes Raikkonen on the first turn, with an impressive line and heaps of angle, just look at the tyre smoke..." I can't see it being faster, except maybe on the odd corner, certainly not a whole lap. In any race with more than one lap its a useless technique due to tyre wear anyhow. I do concede that they have far higher entry speeds most of the time, but the exit is what counts if your looking for time. I have always wondered how different a lap time you can get drifting as fast as possible, or just going for traction. Quote
projectKE10 Posted December 12, 2007 Report Posted December 12, 2007 If they drift on public roads they are hoons. Drifters do it at the track. don't brag about that stuff on here. Woooooo up there sodier, i never said i condone doing it on the streets, i just said you can't call this bloke a bad driver because he clearly did something that a bad driver would not be able to do...... Shall i repeat myself, he shouldn't have done it around all the pedestrains and parked cars. Quote
LittleRedSpirit Posted December 12, 2007 Report Posted December 12, 2007 Woooooo up there sodier, i never said i condone doing it on the streets, i just said you can't call this bloke a bad driver because he clearly did something that a bad driver would not be able to do...... Shall i repeat myself, he shouldn't have done it around all the pedestrains and parked cars. Why defend him at all? You don't know him, if you agreed with me you wouldn't be so argumentative about this. Any idiot can mash the throttle and get away with it most of the time. Just cause you drive away, its not skill, luck mostly. I appreciate you are passionate, but if you defend his actions as skill, you are condoning it. That hollow little sentence at the end doesnt really mean shit if you already claimed he was skillful. Its like saying, its cool you killed that guy, but I don't condone murder. Do you get it? The point of this thread was to discuss funny offs that try hard hoons have while doing what they do worst, not to argue the skills of said hoons. I have read in full all the posts you've made here on the site, and your either arguing with people, or selling shit. At what point are you gonna contribute more than random misguided opinions to the site? I'm not trying to be smart, but I don't think any of the established members will respect what you write, if you defend idiot hoons which ruin it for all of us who mod cars. There is 100% no way that 'skillful' el falcon drivers spend their time lapping country towns and sliding up busy streets with people and parked cars in the pouring rain. Nobody with any track-work credentials would do that. Please appreciate that this isn't personal towards you, you may well be a good human being with a good helping of brains and common sense, your just not advertising this possibility so far. Quote
projectKE10 Posted December 12, 2007 Report Posted December 12, 2007 If you knew the shit that Beerhead can do behind the wheel you'd shut your yap about what your friends can do. If your calling him a noob that just tells me that you are indeed none too familiar with the Rollaclub community. On another note, if a boxer kicks your ass in the street, thats assault or gbh, right, but if you take a fight and step into the ring with him, then its a sport. Same thing goes for drifting, I can't believe you would defend the person I saw, sight unseen, on assumptions you have made. Just done your first fishtale and not crashed? When you going pro, surely DA will call you this week when they hear about it. Sorry to flame you dude, but enough is enough. :D :yes: :P And if you knew what i could do behind the wheel you would probably shut your yap too. Just because I'm not a "Drifter" doesn't mean i can't drift, some people just don't have the $$$$ to do it as a sport. And on that note, i can't believe you would call this bloke a "bad driver" for showing off his ability, this doesn't make him a "bad driver," what it does make him though, is a showoff and an idiot for putting other peoples lives at risk, and as i said i do not condone this. And on another note, did you make this "assumption"... (which clearly you have done, you don't know this bloke, same as you don't know me!, what right do you have to call him a bad driver??????)... because he is a ford driver and you envy him because you suport s-box holdens and you wish you had the knowledge to realise that FORDS are clearly the better make out of the two (sorry to "flame you" but its true)?... Or are you just jelious of him because you aren't able to handle a car like he can? Now this bloke is not a bad driver but clearly an idiot driver. And as i said before.... OVER IT Quote
projectKE10 Posted December 12, 2007 Report Posted December 12, 2007 (edited) Why defend him at all? You don't know him, if you agreed with me you wouldn't be so argumentative about this. Any idiot can mash the throttle and get away with it most of the time. Just cause you drive away, its not skill, luck mostly. I appreciate you are passionate, but if you defend his actions as skill, you are condoning it. That hollow little sentence at the end doesnt really mean shit if you already claimed he was skillful. Its like saying, its cool you killed that guy, but I don't condone murder. Do you get it? The point of this thread was to discuss funny offs that try hard hoons have while doing what they do worst, not to argue the skills of said hoons. I have read in full all the posts you've made here on the site, and your either arguing with people, or selling shit. At what point are you gonna contribute more than random misguided opinions to the site? I'm not trying to be smart, but I don't think any of the established members will respect what you write, if you defend idiot hoons which ruin it for all of us who mod cars. There is 100% no way that 'skillful' el falcon drivers spend their time lapping country towns and sliding up busy streets with people and parked cars in the pouring rain. Nobody with any track-work credentials would do that. Please appreciate that this isn't personal towards you, you may well be a good human being with a good helping of brains and common sense, your just not advertising this possibility so far. :P Look sorry alright i just don't think you should be calling him a bad driver when he has shown that he has a bit of skill he just should be using that skill in the right place. And yes i'll agree it is people like that that reck it for us all. Its just the age old Ford Holden debate I had to get in on it. Ok i shall start contributing. Edited December 12, 2007 by projectKE10 Quote
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