philbey Posted August 20, 2007 Report Posted August 20, 2007 SRs are all fine and dandy, but CA18s are good cheap power. My mate stumbled across this the other day: Bluebird for sale This is my old car (not pluggin the sale by the way). I re did the head gasket about 2 years back then sold it January last year. I did a proper job on it, and bought quality parts, so that bit is all good. when I sold it, it needed a clutch and an exhaust flange/turbo gasket, which both have been done by this dude. Not sure why, but he also reckons he replaced the timing belt, which I did when I did the head (go figure). Seriously, if you want a CA, scoot over here, grab a permit and drive this thing back. He'll sell for 1100 according to a mate that emailed him. This is a good motor, just a pity it was wrapped in 1200kgs of shitbird wagon. Seriosuly quick though, If I managed enough traction, I could go neck and neck with my mates RS Liberty which was also a fast car. Everything you need here - motor, fuel system, computer etc etc. Unbreakable motor, and this one has had the requisite CA head gasket problem fixed! Id love to see something good done with the donk, and then give me a call and I'll come around, drag the shell away and burn the f@$ker to the ground! (bluebird owners will understand) Quote
Jordan Posted August 20, 2007 Report Posted August 20, 2007 (edited) ^^Because they were designed by Nissans truck division by putting a spark plug in a Diesel motor. well not really but might as well have been. OK you got me the 910 isn't the same as a VL turbo pump, but it's near enough. -Not sure where you're getting your info about the 10A's power but after visiting various pages it appears that the 10A from factory had between 75 and 96Crank KW, well below 90KW's at the wheels. -Rotary's smooth? just like Bundy OP or 14mg smokes. -RX3/4 sumps are hard to come by cheap, but there are plently around if you want to spend $$, as are early 13B's that mount off the front cover. -You don't want to use a decomp 13b, we did for KE20ME's (Hen's) 1300 conversion and it was more trouble than it was worth, it was the wrong decision. for a carbie application, they use more fuel and make less power, like all low comprression motors that aren't force fed. -I wouldn't be taking a motor I haden't pulled apart, and rebuilt anywhere near 9500RPM, unless you're looking for trouble, especially an old rotar. Be warned old RX gear is starting to fetch good money, becuase the batteries Mazda used were rubbish and leaked, rusting up much of the chassie components. The CA is a good motor, I've got one (all be it ina TA22, not a Rolla) but others hear have them as well and they are a no fuss, rev happy motor that makes 150kWs at the treads no worries. They're easy to drive day to day, and the gear box's are so much better than the S4/5 RX7 box's. Nowhere near as notchy, fell like a Toyota W-box. Don't take this defencive response as a "I don't like Rotars" post, I do, they're great fun, but you wanted advice on a CA swap. I've driven RotaRolla's, and CAcelicas/CArollas and the CA's were always easier/less effort to drive. My CA did better than 10L/100km on the highway before I pulled the head off to get some work done. Jordan If you go CA, put in a MLS head gasket, the chump that spent $4000 on rebuilding mine with forged pistons and some other gear didn't and the stocko he put in blew 2 months after I bought the car. Edited August 20, 2007 by Jordan Quote
philbey Posted August 20, 2007 Report Posted August 20, 2007 (edited) My CA did better than 10L/100km on the highway before I pulled the head off to get some work done.Jordan hmm - might have had my foot to hard on the giggle pedal I think.... seriously underrated motor, go the CA. Edited August 20, 2007 by philbey Quote
Jono Posted August 22, 2007 Report Posted August 22, 2007 not sure about SA but you can engineer a CA18DET in a ke20 in NSW. biggest turbo motor is a 1900cc. Quote
benzo Posted August 22, 2007 Author Report Posted August 22, 2007 not sure about SA but you can engineer a CA18DET in a ke20 in NSW. biggest turbo motor is a 1900cc. Wow, that makes sense, you can engineer a CA18 (with 130 or whatever kw) into a KE20 but not a 13B (which has under 100kw). Quote
Jono Posted August 23, 2007 Report Posted August 23, 2007 you can't even register a 12a in a ke20 in NSW. Quote
benzo Posted August 23, 2007 Author Report Posted August 23, 2007 Yeah I know makes no sense, a 1.2-litre non turbo rotor can't be registered in a KE20, but a 1.8-litre turbo four cylinder can be. Quote
Jono Posted August 23, 2007 Report Posted August 23, 2007 i'd love a few rotars in my ke20 but... Quote
benzo Posted August 23, 2007 Author Report Posted August 23, 2007 Yes, so would I and it seems thats the direction I'm going now. Quote
Hokey Posted October 18, 2007 Report Posted October 18, 2007 PM sent philbey, I bought that car :lolcry: Quote
13BT_KE20 Posted October 18, 2007 Report Posted October 18, 2007 Yes, so would I and it seems thats the direction I'm going now. :P another ones coming to the dark side :bash: just remember, everythings legal until you get caught :lolcry: Quote
Rollaboy2608 Posted October 18, 2007 Report Posted October 18, 2007 (edited) Wow, that makes sense, you can engineer a CA18 (with 130 or whatever kw) into a KE20 but not a 13B (which has under 100kw). Thats because a 13B has a total capacity of 2.6L, its a twin rotor which is 1.3L per housing I had a mate that put a CA18 turbo in a KE20, damn it was a few years ago now, wish I had taken some pics of it, it was yellow with 17in simmons on it. Number plates were something like whytry. The conversion was a lengthy one, and cost him about 10 G's through a local performance shop. i remember the plates now.. it was PLZTRY Edited October 19, 2007 by Rollaboy2608 Quote
13BT_KE20 Posted October 19, 2007 Report Posted October 19, 2007 Thats because a 13B has a total capacity of 2.6L, its a twin rotor which is 1.3L per housingI had a mate that put a CA18 turbo in a KE20, damn it was a few years ago now, wish I had taken some pics of it, it was yellow with 17in simmons on it. Number plates were something like whytry. The conversion was a lengthy one, and cost him about 10 G's through a local performance shop. no, a 13B is a twin rotor with total capacity of 1.3L, each housing is 654cc or 0.654L :lolcry: They double to capacity due to the increased efficiency of the rotary combustion cycle when compared to a regular piston combustion cycle Quote
Rollaboy2608 Posted October 19, 2007 Report Posted October 19, 2007 (edited) no, a 13B is a twin rotor with total capacity of 1.3L, each housing is 654cc or 0.654L :lolcry: They double to capacity due to the increased efficiency of the rotary combustion cycle when compared to a regular piston combustion cycle hmmm I oviously need to do more reading on rotas haha thanks man! Update: Wikipedia...a great source of info on just about anything. I am now a little more schooled in rotor physics Edited October 19, 2007 by Rollaboy2608 Quote
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