LittleRedSpirit Posted July 17, 2013 Report Posted July 17, 2013 Hey mate' date=' I noticed youre after a set of MA61 wheels. Ive got a set in storage that its looking like I wont end up using, happy to let them go for whatever the going rate is if youre keen. I havent seen any sold on here for quite a while now, what do you think theyre worth? Cheers, Ed[/quote'] Id prefer if you set an asking price, cause if you leave it up to me Id make a low offer considering I need freight to QLD and have absolutely no idea what condition they're in. I'm not comfortable offering money for goods Ive never seen. Price really depends on condition, more so than what the item is. Matt Ok mate, that goes both ways of course so my asking price is $12 million.... but according to the MA61 discussion thread they reckon $350+. Let me know if youre interested at that kind of price and I'll get some photos. Shipping would be about $100 maybe, I'll confirm have to weigh them to check. Cheers, Ed Well I'm not making an offer till I see condition, I appreciate your message but I don't know what more I can say without seeing what I am expected to offer money. If thats unreasonable to you lets just leave it at that. Leave it at that then mate. I only sent you a message after I saw your posting asking about some. I didnt expect a mexican stand-off over the price. Put yourself in my shoes, I'm not going to dig them out of storage for photos only to have you reply with "I don't wanna spend more than $50". Clearly if you said "Yes Id be willing to spend that", and then I sent you pics of some poor condition wheels you would be under no obligation to send me the money. Good luck with your search. Cheers, Ed Hi ed, I'm not responsible for them being in an inconvenient place. Thats an odd thing to be complaining to me about. I feel you're not actively trying to sell the wheels, but it seems you sincerely want $350. I'm happy to pay what items are worth, but there is no standard price for 30 year old parts. Condition matters, my Celica is almost concourse and I want nice stuff for it. Why do you think I'm asking again and again about the condition? After time the factory anodising comes off or goes cloudy, and this often can happen in storage, so they may not even be in the condition now that they were when you put them away. You have still in 3 messages not addressed the condition issue which is central to the value. So what I'm getting is a message from you that's all about $350 and not about the product I'm trying to purchase or its value. Have a look at my build and see if you reckon Id spend money or not. Please allow me my freedom of choice to offer what I think an item is worth, and offer me enough info to allow me to make that decision properly. These wheels are far from rare. Why do you think I would consider freighting an item interstate that I can clearly buy locally? Because condition matters! I don't know how clear I can make it. If you are simply going to sit at your keyboard and make demands of me and not work with me at all, then I give up. Matt Suck my balls Matt. Cheers, Ed I'm looking for wheels, not to be mind ʞ©$ɟed by someone dude. You are a time waster. So you actually need to put effort into this and its not for you, I totally get it. Go back to bed. Quote
LittleRedSpirit Posted July 17, 2013 Report Posted July 17, 2013 (edited) Hey mate' date=' I noticed youre after a set of MA61 wheels. Ive got a set in storage that its looking like I wont end up using, happy to let them go for whatever the going rate is if youre keen. I havent seen any sold on here for quite a while now, what do you think theyre worth? Cheers, Ed[/quote'] Id prefer if you set an asking price, cause if you leave it up to me Id make a low offer considering I need freight to QLD and have absolutely no idea what condition they're in. I'm not comfortable offering money for goods Ive never seen. Price really depends on condition, more so than what the item is. Matt Ok mate, that goes both ways of course so my asking price is $12 million.... but according to the MA61 discussion thread they reckon $350+. Let me know if youre interested at that kind of price and I'll get some photos. Shipping would be about $100 maybe, I'll confirm have to weigh them to check. Cheers, Ed Well I'm not making an offer till I see condition, I appreciate your message but I don't know what more I can say without seeing what I am expected to offer money. If thats unreasonable to you lets just leave it at that. Leave it at that then mate. I only sent you a message after I saw your posting asking about some. I didnt expect a mexican stand-off over the price. Put yourself in my shoes, I'm not going to dig them out of storage for photos only to have you reply with "I don't wanna spend more than $50". Clearly if you said "Yes Id be willing to spend that", and then I sent you pics of some poor condition wheels you would be under no obligation to send me the money. Good luck with your search. Cheers, Ed Hi ed, I'm not responsible for them being in an inconvenient place. Thats an odd thing to be complaining to me about. I feel you're not actively trying to sell the wheels, but it seems you sincerely want $350. I'm happy to pay what items are worth, but there is no standard price for 30 year old parts. Condition matters, my Celica is almost concourse and I want nice stuff for it. Why do you think I'm asking again and again about the condition? After time the factory anodising comes off or goes cloudy, and this often can happen in storage, so they may not even be in the condition now that they were when you put them away. You have still in 3 messages not addressed the condition issue which is central to the value. So what I'm getting is a message from you that's all about $350 and not about the product I'm trying to purchase or its value. Have a look at my build and see if you reckon Id spend money or not. Please allow me my freedom of choice to offer what I think an item is worth, and offer me enough info to allow me to make that decision properly. These wheels are far from rare. Why do you think I would consider freighting an item interstate that I can clearly buy locally? Because condition matters! I don't know how clear I can make it. If you are simply going to sit at your keyboard and make demands of me and not work with me at all, then I give up. Matt Suck my balls Matt. Cheers, Ed I'm looking for wheels, not to be mind ʞ©$ɟed by someone dude. You are a time waster. So you actually need to put effort into this and its not for you, I totally get it. Go back to bed. Mate, Ive been doing this for a while, I'm not a keyboard warrior/time waster. I actually founded the supra club up where you live (back when it wasnt filled to the brim with body kits and stereos). I know when I come across with someone who claims to be building a "concourse" supra, but can't just be upfront and honest about $350, theyre going to be a hassle to deal with. I thought I was as upfront as I could be, I just wanted an indication of where you stood. You start carrying on about it like youre buying a house or negotiating commodity prices with China, when I just asked what you thought of an indicative price. I even told you where I got that indication from. I could not have made this more simple for you. I guess simplicity is sometimes too complex for some people. Edited July 17, 2013 by LittleRedSpirit Quote
LittleRedSpirit Posted July 17, 2013 Report Posted July 17, 2013 My response: Negotiation comes after seeing an item. You messaged me, I thought you might be a bit more pro active, because its hard to say your not a keyboard warrior, when you are just sitting on your keyboard, and not off somewhere taking pictures of wheels you want to sell. Acting like you're helping me out when you just threw a few demands on email. If you were helping me Id thank you, this aint it. If we take the long view of your situation; Once you have the pictures of the wheels, if the worst case scenario happens and I don't want your wheels or we cannot come to a deal, then you could simply post a for sale add with the photos. You already said that you had decided you wont use them, so what would be the problem if things worked out that way anyhow really? What kind of promises am I expected to make. If you want to sell them, advertise and sell them, and why is that my problem? Seems like going and getting those photos would have been the push you needed to start the process of moving them on with or without my buying them. You're carrying on like that act is some eternal favour that should be etched on a cave wall or something, for my great grandchildren to read. Its not. Get your shit together man. We all have accomplished a lot in our lives and I feel in no way emasculated enough by this non event to start listing things about myself that I think are good as some glorious justification of being self centred. And what the ʞ©$ɟ is with this talking down to me bullshit. You do not know me. Your tone is disgusting. Making it simple for me, what the ʞ©$ɟ? Making me agree to a price before I even get to see an item? That is unheard of. Treating me from message one like a little kid with no money and no idea what they are even worth. You shouldn't be such an asshole and condescend to me or anybody you don't know. Matt I don't think Ill bother writing back. Quote
B.L.Z.BUB Posted July 17, 2013 Report Posted July 17, 2013 Not as bad, but I offered a guy free parts the other day and he turned them down as he couldnt be bothered coming and getting them then asked me to drop them off. Quote
ke70dave Posted July 17, 2013 Report Posted July 17, 2013 haha yeah i had a guy ask me to drop off free stuff once too.....at the gold coast! Matt, if you don't laugh, you'll end up crying. Quote
LittleRedSpirit Posted July 17, 2013 Report Posted July 17, 2013 Oh no don't get me wrong, I'm extremely entertained by this. Thats why it here, its funny and I want to share the laughs. Quote
LukeAE71 Posted July 17, 2013 Report Posted July 17, 2013 People on the ae/ke fb sales page being rude as and me not being able to tag Reed to get his attention. :( Quote
B.L.Z.BUB Posted July 17, 2013 Report Posted July 17, 2013 I'm on it. YOU GET BANNED..... AND YOU GET BANNED....EVERYONE GETS BANNED!!!!! Quote
B.L.Z.BUB Posted July 17, 2013 Report Posted July 17, 2013 You're all on your own now, I removed myself as admin and from the group entirely. Quote
carbonboy Posted July 17, 2013 Report Posted July 17, 2013 You've done well LRS, I would've told him to jam his wheels in a warm dark place (or offered to do it for him) somewhere around the mid-point of the second message. I couldn't deal with a douche like that even for a set of OZ Racing wheels. Quote
madKE35coupe Posted July 18, 2013 Report Posted July 18, 2013 Wgmg watching a qualified tyre fitter clamping alloy rims on the machine from the inside......anyone who hss fit tyres would know what I'm on about :/ Quote
ke70dave Posted July 18, 2013 Report Posted July 18, 2013 yeah i rememebr watching a young kid doing my wheels on my corolla SSR wheels, I thought it looked wrong the way he was doing it, and luckily the boss saw him before he got too far into the job, and sorted him out before he persumably damaged the wheels. Can you explain what needs to be done? id like to know what he was doing wrong. Quote
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