Celica/hiace Wheels On Ke30

[tas_ae71]

can't let the thread die without point out that it's a bad idea for any car to put spaces between your hub and your wheel. not only illegal, but dangerous.

 

I feel better about it now.

 

 

Yes and i actually seen it fall off, I was a front seat passenger in my mates car and we heard a knocking noise comin from the front left so i poked my head out of the window as we were only doin 40k's and the wheel nut fell off so we stopped and i picked it up to find that the stud was still in it.

 

yes i have also heard of a guy whos wheel fell of due to spacers, this was most probaly due to him either getting very shitty 'bolt-on spacers' or not doing them up properly, he wasnt a very machanical type of guy.

 

the guy whom I'm sponcering has a heavyish car, thats 4 stud and its a track/drift car. he uses bolt-on spacers and slip-on spaces and he has never broken a stud, he one stripped the thread on one because it was over tightned and corroded. i would not ever recomend using this much spaceing, just get desent wheels.

 

slip on spacers ARE NOT DANGEROUS unless you 1) don't do your wheel nuts up in which case it wont make any diffrence if you have the spacer on or not, 2) you get a over size slipon spacer and do not have the deep type nuts rendering you with minimal thread on the stud.

 

i have some wheels that require the deep type nuts, i lost some of the nuts and had only 2 of these deep nuts per wheel, and 2 ke70 nuts which only went on 3 turns. i did not have a problem with this but i wouldnt recomend this as being a permanant thing as it puts much more stress on the threds. anything can be dangerous if you don't take proper precaustions or use it in a manner other than directed.

 

having said that, if you can get away with a 6-8mm slip on spacer and deep nuts i think thats your best option. bolt-on spacers need to be checked from time to time to ensure that they are still tight just as your wheels should be.

[Ben Dover]

For God sake it's just the f@$king webbing, get yourself a 100mm grinder and take off just enough!

or use some Cressida 15inch wheels. That solves 2 problems at the same time. You end up with 15inch wheels, don't forget to use the Cressida nuts. I had the a set of alloys off a celicaon a Ke20 with Ke30 brakes, and after taking a little shit offthe calliper they and never had a problem.

 

Ben Dover

[styler]

its not the wheel studs that should be holding the car weight, its the hub spigot, on stock rims the spigot hole is the correct size, for most mags or other car rims you can use spigot locating rings that fill the oversized hole and locate on the hub spigot.

 

spacers will not allow the spigot hole to locate on the hub and then its up the the wheel studs which arent at a shear force

anymore thanks to the spacers pushing them out which makes the studs weaker, not that they should be taking so much force in the first place.

 

then the nuts don't go on as far as they are meant too due to the spacer so you get less engagement. you can change to longer wheel studs but it doesnt solve the other 2 problems.

 

so its better to get rims that fit :) or modify that caliper :)

[Hiro Protagonist]

its not the wheel studs that should be holding the car weight, its the hub spigot, on stock rims the spigot hole is the correct size, for most mags or other car rims you can use spigot locating rings that fill the oversized hole and locate on the hub spigot.

 

 

Good thing about Toyota is that basically all their 70s and 80s RWD cars have the same stud pattern (4x114.3), roughly the same offset (+20, with a few exceptions), same size and pitch studs, and same spigot size, so you can mix and match as much as you want. I've got MA61 Supra mags on the KE55, and the only thing that needs to be changed is to use the Supra wheel nuts (flat flange) as opposed to the stock Corolla ones (tapered)

[Rollaboy2608]

its not the wheel studs that should be holding the car weight, its the hub spigot, on stock rims the spigot hole is the correct size, for most mags or other car rims you can use spigot locating rings that fill the oversized hole and locate on the hub spigot.

 

spacers will not allow the spigot hole to locate on the hub and then its up the the wheel studs which arent at a shear force

anymore thanks to the spacers pushing them out which makes the studs weaker, not that they should be taking so much force in the first place.

 

then the nuts don't go on as far as they are meant too due to the spacer so you get less engagement. you can change to longer wheel studs but it doesnt solve the other 2 problems.

 

so its better to get rims that fit :) or modify that caliper :)

Also by spacing the wheel you are placing more load on wheel bearings, as you are changing the point at which they carry the load.. I know because I have spacers on my car, and the bearings quickly wore out on both sides after they were fitted. If I wasnt so lazy I would modify the suspension so the wheels would fit properly, but thats what I am..lazy!