JiP Posted February 19, 2009 Author Report Posted February 19, 2009 If GM goes bust does Holden go down?? Quote
Johno Posted February 19, 2009 Report Posted February 19, 2009 Saw this on the way to work this morning. Looked like 3 massive turbo's, lol! Quote
JiP Posted February 19, 2009 Author Report Posted February 19, 2009 Well at least you new phone can take good pics :D Quote
Jason KE30 Posted February 19, 2009 Report Posted February 19, 2009 This little critter surprised me as I walked out the front door today. I saw a tail under the screen door and I was like 'WTF???' It was over 30cm long!! Quote
Jason KE30 Posted February 19, 2009 Report Posted February 19, 2009 I didn't eat it Jon, I gave it some water and set it free. I know, I'm an angel. :D Quote
Johno Posted February 19, 2009 Report Posted February 19, 2009 Well at least you new phone can take good pics :D I had to size down. Originally it was 2.3mb, now its less than 300kb. Quote
Hiro Protagonist Posted February 19, 2009 Report Posted February 19, 2009 If GM goes bust does Holden go down?? Holden is fairly strong on it's own, I'd reckon it'd be able to survive. Fortunately we've managed to keep ourselves isolated from the boat-anchors that are GM cars, last one was the Suburban and we all know what a raging success that was.... Big question would be what would happen to Vauxhall and Opel? Holden sources more from Europe than it does from America these days (although a big chunk of it's new cars are Korean via Daewoo, ie Barina, Viva, Epica and Captiva) Quote
Taz_Rx Posted February 19, 2009 Report Posted February 19, 2009 I don't think our Government would let Holden go down either. :D Wouldn't be suprised it Holden, Opel and Vauxhall kept operating while GM crumbles above them. You never know they might just end up buying their independance back from GM!? :P Quote
orangeLJ Posted February 19, 2009 Report Posted February 19, 2009 Id say, If it got to the point of GM falling over then GMH would be sold off. I read something on an american car forum that had GM cutting the pontiac (most models) and solstice (all together) lines as a cost cutting venture. They were commenting on how bad GM was doing, yet were pretty surprised when I mentioned that Holden was debuting a small, FWD concept and already has production plans for next year. GMH is still doing fine, but I was pondering who would buy out GMH if GM was to decide to sell it off. Id say there would be ample cause for the govt to buy the company outright as a method of securing the jobs and not degrading our economy any firther. (not that they would, they seem more interested in selling things then buying them these days) There was talk of a chinese company being interested in buying holden, I hope that doesnt follow through. Quote
Taz_Rx Posted February 19, 2009 Report Posted February 19, 2009 There was talk of a chinese company being interested in buying holden, I hope that doesnt follow through. Diddo. Did you see the Communist car story on TGUK last week? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFfQSFx1Gek...feature=related Sorry could only find the full story with Russian commentry. :D Quote
Hiro Protagonist Posted February 19, 2009 Report Posted February 19, 2009 There was talk of a chinese company being interested in buying holden, I hope that doesnt follow through. Chinese car companies need to stay in China until they can produce a car which is applicable and acceptable for the rest of the world. I know they can do it, look at the success of the Korean car industry on a world scale now (especially Hyundai), but at the moment their cars are SHOCKING. Had a ride in a Geely taxi in Vanuatu, and it felt like the entire car was falling apart around me. And after seeing some crash videos, they'd be putting the car crushers out of business because it automatically folds itself into a neat 1x1x1m cube upon impact with anything more substantial than a rose bush. Quote
Taz_Rx Posted February 20, 2009 Report Posted February 20, 2009 True that..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZWy_fASSiQ...016&index=4 Whats the point of even having airbags if the dash crushes you into the seat!!! :D Quote
orangeLJ Posted February 20, 2009 Report Posted February 20, 2009 pillowy softness before painful death (I know, I know, airbags arent pillowy soft, they just look it) Chinese car manufacturers have been dodgy for a long time, even back to when they were making dodgy toyota rip offs. Youtube and ebay are the only things blocked here at work, you can look at anything else, you just can't watch funny videos or buy stuff...... But there is a video on there of a crash test of a chinese flatbed truck, only a little 2 tonner, carrying a single pallet of bricks and hitting a wall at like 30km/h. The cabine gets completely pressed to the wall, the diff comes half way down the truck, lots of bad stuff. Quote
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