flat out Posted February 12, 2008 Report Posted February 12, 2008 does and flutter is like bread and butter Quote
Toy-Yoda[RL] Posted February 12, 2008 Report Posted February 12, 2008 Hell yeah dude its a must not like this one tho...... Â That is so funny, I had to watch it like 6 times straight, I'd do it (if I was running turbo) just to see what the fuzz would have to say about it......... Â On topic: I can't wait to see how this runs when finished........ Quote
rolla13bt Posted February 12, 2008 Report Posted February 12, 2008 You gotta have it man,if you try and get off the gas at big boost it will tear that comp wheel right of the shaft if you don't have something. Â Ha Ha Ha Ha can I have some of whatever your on? it must be good shit.... Quote
Taz_Rx Posted February 12, 2008 Author Report Posted February 12, 2008 Ha Ha Ha Ha can I have some of whatever your on? it must be good shit.... Â Thats because Matt knows what sort of boost I'm planning on running. :sob: Â Injectors were beautiful thanks mate! :y: Took me a couple of minutes to work out I had 2 sets of the bigger o-rings! :P Â Oh, and I picked up your sandwhich plate yesterday, so I'll chuck that in the post today. :S Â I'll have a look on egay for a temporary BOV cheap. Quote
madrolla68 Posted February 12, 2008 Report Posted February 12, 2008 You gotta have it man,if you try and get off the gas at big boost it will tear that comp wheel right of the shaft if you don't have something. Ha Ha Ha Ha can I have some of whatever your on? it must be good shit....  Why is that are you suggesting that he doesn't need to use one!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :P :sob: :bash:  OH here we go again! :y: :S Quote
rolla13bt Posted February 12, 2008 Report Posted February 12, 2008 Why is that are you suggesting that he doesn't need to use one!!!!!!!!!!!!! :P :sob: :bash:  OH here we go again! :y: :S  I don't use one and my comp wheel hasn't fallen off yet. they are a wank, they attract attention, they are a waste of money and they sound super gay. Quote
Taz_Rx Posted February 12, 2008 Author Report Posted February 12, 2008 What boost are you running!? :S 25+psi  If they're not necessary, why are they put on 99% of factory turbo cars!!!  I agree they are used and abused by ricers, just for the sound, but they do have a functional purpose.  What ever is put on my car will be a plumb back, so it won't attract attention (no more than a turbo ke55 :P) and won't have a big gay sound! :y: Quote
rolla13bt Posted February 13, 2008 Report Posted February 13, 2008 Fair enought. just through my own experience i havn't seen any benefit from one. neither did the group A ford sierra's running 40+psi, the group B 700hp wrc cars of the 80s, the Champ cars of today or even F1's back in the 80s. Quote
Taz_Rx Posted February 13, 2008 Author Report Posted February 13, 2008 And all of those mentioned cars would have had a brand new turbo (and probably motor) put on after every round/race!! :y: Â Even with the more advanced turbos we have today, group N rally cars still get a new (BB) turbo every round!!! You should see the pile of "second hand" STI turbos at Les Walkdens rally workshop!!!! :P Â Reversion is not cool. It may sound cool, but thats the sound of your turbo temporaraly spinning backwards and forwards within milliseconds! And why do rotaries rev harder than pistons.....because the don't change direction! :S Quote
madrolla68 Posted February 13, 2008 Report Posted February 13, 2008 I don't use one and my comp wheel hasn't fallen off yet. they are a wank, they attract attention, they are a waste of money and they sound super gay. Â Â Just another person that is trying to re-invent the wheel Si. Â Mate,trust me i own a turbocharger repair business,if you don't run some sort of BOV,even if it is plumb back eventually you will do damage to the turbo. Â You know that noise when you back off from what ,that is the comp wheel trying to jump out of the comp cover. Â Go and re-educate yourself. Â Matt Quote
rolla13bt Posted February 13, 2008 Report Posted February 13, 2008 And all of those mentioned cars would have had a brand new turbo (and probably motor) put on after every round/race!! :y: Â Even with the more advanced turbos we have today, group N rally cars still get a new (BB) turbo every round!!! You should see the pile of "second hand" STI turbos at Les Walkdens rally workshop!!!! :P Â Reversion is not cool. It may sound cool, but thats the sound of your turbo temporaraly spinning backwards and forwards within milliseconds! And why do rotaries rev harder than pistons.....because the don't change direction! :S Â yeah they probly did replace them in most cases. the only reason they would be throwing the sti turbos in the bin after every round is because they would be running anti-lag which pretty much rapes the crap out of them. as for spinning backwards i am yet to see any proof as in one on an engine dyno with high speed camera actually showing it spinning backwards. until then i'll put it down to air reversion. i've been running 10psi with a t66 for a while now with no probs and have a few mates with 300+rwkw cars that have no bov that have had zero turbo problems. But it's all down to personal preference at the end of the day. Quote
Taz_Rx Posted February 13, 2008 Author Report Posted February 13, 2008 (edited) Dunno if Les's STI's are running anti-lag. Â This was the conversation I had with his rally mechanic: Â Me - "so you only use them for one round?" Â Him - "yeah normally just one round, we pull them off when they start to get a bit noisey" Â Me - "what do you mean by 'noise'?" Â Him - "when you can turn off the car, and you can hear the turbo winding down"!!!! Â And remeber these are BB turbo. Â So basically they use them for one round (at which they're basically run in!) and them chuck them under the bench. I asked about buying one as they're the same flange as the TDO4 I had, and he wanted $750 each. Now do you think they'd sell a stuffed turbo for that much with the money Les has!!!? Â .....until then i'll put it down to air reversion. Â How does air revert though compressor venes that are spinning, to pump air in the opposite direction!? :y: Â Lastly I'll leave you with this very cool vid. Yes it does make bullshit power and it'd be on a fair bit of boost, but I'm only using it as its one of the best vids I've seen of a BOV in action. Do you really want that sort of "small explosion" :P coming back through your expensive turbo!! :S http://youtube.com/watch?v=LpFRBc0ZdoE Edited February 13, 2008 by Taz_Rx Quote
madrolla68 Posted February 13, 2008 Report Posted February 13, 2008 yeah they probly did replace them in most cases. the only reason they would be throwing the sti turbos in the bin after every round is because they would be running anti-lag which pretty much rapes the crap out of them.as for spinning backwards i am yet to see any proof as in one on an engine dyno with high speed camera actually showing it spinning backwards. until then i'll put it down to air reversion. i've been running 10psi with a t66 for a while now with no probs and have a few mates with 300+rwkw cars that have no bov that have had zero turbo problems. But it's all down to personal preference at the end of the day. Â 10Psi thats not turbocharged. :y: :S :P :sob: Quote
rolla13bt Posted February 13, 2008 Report Posted February 13, 2008 i'd love to watch it but our IT department has banned youtube on our network. oh well. the day my turbo craps itself due to not having a bov i'll think about getting one. i doubt i'll ever be buying one tho... Quote
rolla13bt Posted February 13, 2008 Report Posted February 13, 2008 10Psi thats not turbocharged. :y: :S :P :sob: Â Big turbo's don't need much boost mate. Quote
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