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Stuffed up URL link there somewhere ! Good Read ! :dance:

Came across this sob story on eBay, which is worth a good read. It's got a Toyota content, so should be of interest on this site. The moral of the story, is "Don't drink & eBay !" And you all thought Nick was pretty skilled with the pen & verse ! sob STORY / DESCRIPTION :dance:

Yes Church ! Didn't you note Jamie's comment in another thread, that he "religously" takes it out to 8000 rpm, everytime he drives it. :)

Question about the K series timing chain. I stripped my newly acquired 5K down at the weekend. Got a Toyota 2K to 5K genuine engine manual yesterday off eBay which I will use to check all original measurements. Note that some in these threads are suggesting that the timing chain be changed to 2 row on 5Ks. I agree ! From my experience with chains in any application. They streeeetch over time. Question. Where do you get a double row timing chain & sprokets for the 5K ? Are they an aftermarket part ? I note, and old 3K I have here in the garage has a double row timing chain on it as standard. Do the 3K double chains & cam & crankshaft sprockets fit straight onto a 5K ? :D

Teddy, what a find ! And I thought Justatoy got a good deal. It sounds like you have a friend or someone who doesn't really know the worth of these 5Ks. It shows there are still some out there to be sourced, but heavens, there are hard to find. I've been searching for 5 months. Previous ones I've found were all in places like S.A. or Tasmania. I go mine on the Sunshine Coast, a mere hour odd drive away. I'm like a kid the night before Christmas at the moment; Can't wait to get into it this weekend. Mine has 160 - 165 PSI on all four cylinders, and very smooth running, so I'm rapped ! I'll let you know how I go, & what I find. :P

Got my 5 speed gearbox out of the car at the moment to replace a front oil seal. The 5 speed mates up to a 4K-C as a daily drive. Just aquired a 5K-C last night and brought it home. Quickly mated the 5 speed box off the 4K-C upto it, and it mates perfectly. Hope that helps. That sure was a great 5K buy you got for $ 500.00. We're all envious. :P

Good Luck Claire ! Looks great with the "Holdan" blue ! :S

What an informative 24 hours you guys have provided with this thread, that I only posted as a simple question last night about ProZone fuel modifiers. Jamies, links to Tony's Fuel Saving Tips was a very interesting read, and resulted in extended morning & afternoon tea breaks today. (got to be careful there. My boss is such a nastie ! Very punctual ) I have to agree with Tony's comments, that it is highly unlikely that any gismo could improve the economy or performance of a modern computer controlled motor car, with sensors & feedback loops galore, and so much spent on development. However, the cars that you & I, love & drive, are now between 20 to 30 years old, don't all have computers, and minimal self adjusting, or feedback systems. We, the drivers are the feedback. We feel, we hear, we react. (seen a manual choke in a new car recently) Older cars can go out of tune easily, and are very sensitive to changes. I remember a product put out by Kliening Bros in Sydney, called a water injector that supposedly gave you the same smoother running performance you experience inexplicably on a drive on a cool dewy night when the air is heavy with moisture, and the air is denser. The water injection also had the result that the engine was sparkingly clean inside after an eventual head removal. My weekend drive is the family V6 Camry with the Lexus engine, which has to be one of the smoothest engine that has every powered a car I have driven. In 150,000 klms, is has performed incedibly, without a glitch or hiccup. It's absolutely beautiful to drive, but the feeling of driving a KE55 through the seat of your pants, (Corolla seats are lengendary for your bum sitting on the floor) and hearing and feeling every little timing chain slap is a joy many now never experience. Live on olde Corollas ! :S

Why Jamie ? Because they are toooo expensive, (about $ 165.00 ea. I believe) or because they don't work. Or both of the above ? Have you tried one ? :S

Has anyone used a Prozone inline fuel modifier. If so, what results have you got from them. I've read the ProZone websites in the UK & OZ, and some of the testimonials are pretty impressive. I was talking to a guy the other day, who showed me one fitted to his early Falcon coupe. He has had it on for some time & was glowing it his praise of it. But then he worked for Repco, the Australian agent. The Prozones sold here in this part of the world are sold right here in Queensland. Would love to here others comments on this product. Here is the link for those that don't know of the product. ProZone Link ProZone Australia :S

Before you consider taking that old Corolla down to the local tip, bear in mind there might be a begging export market out there in undeveloping countries. The link below goes to a current eBay advertisement for a seller who is trying to relieve himself of a KE70 for $250.00. Nothing unusual about this ad you say. Scroll down to the Buyer Questions section, and click "more" Even the seller can't believe someone would want to buy his old heap & export it to Africa. Link to eBay item :S

Here is the link to the eBay item noted above ! Good for a laugh ! Cheap Corolla ? :S

Just let them hear the engine running ! Engine Running Video ! :D

ARALDITE ! The mechanics friend ! Always keep a 5 minute pack in the glove box. Great for radiator leaks. Repairing corroded water hose connections on thermostat cover & water pumps. Recently did a 4K head job. Heater hose outlet on top of the water pump looked a bit coroded inside. Ran a drill down the inside of spout. Spout collapsed. None left. Drill out big hole in water pump boss. Look around garage for piece of steel tube the right diameter. The only thing I can find is a 12mm/13mm tube spanner. Remove hex ends of tube spanner with hacksaw. Apply ample Araldite in hole. Insert former tube spanner. Allow to set overnight. Reassemble. Have been driving for 3 months now. Like a new one. :D Jamie ! I'm with you. Never knock the Araldite.

I'm actually fascinated by this subject, and tend to agree completely with the theory that initial bedding in of a new engine is the key to a successful rebuild. This story is quite old, but is in the same vein. It comes from Mastang Sally's Land Rover Pages, which is a very good read. Many of you have probably visited the site, but for those newbies, please read the following and don't scoff ! Stranger things happen with motor cars ! The Universal Cleanser This one was told to me by the proprietor of a Mackay automotive engineering works, a man well respected in the trade. In the late 1960's he was an apprentice motor mechanic with the local distributors of British and European cars. The first of the six cylinder 109 Land Rovers in the district had been sold by them. The new owners soon brought them back, complaining bitterly about blue smoke and horrendous oil consumption. Cylinder heads were lifted on a couple of them revealing glazed bores and the only remedy the firm could think of was a light de-glazing hone and new rings. The more of these sixes they sold, the more it began to look like an epidemic. Rover Australia were contacted and it seems that it was an Australia wide epidemic of near-new, smoky, oil guzzling 2.6 litre Land Rovers. Eventually the solution came in the form of a technical bulletin from Rover HQ. There was something wrong with the bore finish on these engines and if they were treated gently, as owners of new cars tend to do, the rings would never bed in and the bores would glaze. Owners should be instructed to give them plenty of welly in the first few hundred miles. The official fix for those vehicles already affected was as follows:- Remove the aircleaner. Start engine and set to a fast 1500 rpm idle.Take a tablespoon full of Bon Ami, a popular household cleanser and slowly tap the powder into the carburettor throat over a period of fifteen minutes. Put everything back in place and take the vehicle for a brisk test drive. The bulletin was most insistent that it should be Bon Ami cleanser. Ajax or Jif would not do. My informant swears that this story is 100% true and that the fix did, in fact, work exactly as advertised. Postscript: David Walworth and Michelle Peterson of St.Croix in the Virgin Islands write:- Hi Steve, liked the story about the use of Bon-Ami cleanser to break in the rings on an engine. Turns out, this fellow from Washington State was visiting us down here in St. Croix who had a story about the use of Bon-Ami in engine rebuilds. Well, this guy Jeff is a Harley-Davidson motorcycle nut. A mechanic told him to wipe down the bores with Bon-Ami just before assembling the engine on his motorcycle. Don't use copious amounts, but don't wipe away the residue, either. There was also some advice about starting it, let it run for 30 seconds, shut off. Then let cool, restart, run for 2 minutes, etc. Well, Jeff says that engine was the longest running engine of any of the bikes he had owned up to that time. Same thing, it had to be Bon-Ami. I told Jeff the story about the Australian 6 cylinder Land Rovers in return. So, who knows? Maybe I should pour a teaspoon down the throat of my IIa diesel and see if it helps with the smoke and oil consumption. Couldn't make it much worse! Cheers, Dave :D

Hey Cricket ! That's an impressive list of drives ! Do you still have them all ? If so, I think you have a "serious addiction problem". As my mother used to say when I lived at home with a yard full of cars. " I think you should make an appointment to see a wrecker." :D

The rack & pinion steering mounting on the KE70 series are on the rear of the front crossmember. Bit of "Teddy" lateral thinking here. Has anyone ever fitted a KE70 front cross member to say a KE-30, 36, 55 and converted the steering over to rack & pinion ? :D

My 4K-U has a double crankshaft pulley. All one piece. The rear pulley is slightly larger than the front one. The rear one drives the usual water pump & alternator. Question ? What was the front one used for. Did some corolla's with 4K-Us have power steering or maybe airconditioning ? Would be interested to know. :D

I have a KE55 2 door coupe running a stock standard 4K-U engine. (Heron head with dished pistons) I have gone through all the common experiences of constantly having to attend to the points, or run the risk of the rubbing block wearing away and point gap diminishing rapidly. Anyway, managed to get hold of a 4K distributor with reluctor triggering. The distributor does not have the ignitor built in like some of the later 5K electronic distributors. The distributor did not come with an ignitor, so I looked around and picked up a brand new Tridon model TIM015 on eBay which is suppose to be a direct replacement for a common Bosch ignitor. Unfortunately it didn't come with any documentation and I don't know which terminal is which on the ignitor. I have searched Google but cannot find anything. The Tridon TM015 has four spade terminals on it marked 3, 7, 15 & 16. These I have been told relate to the same number on the equivalent Bosch unit. I presume two of the terminals connect directly to reluctor sensor & the other two go directly across the ignition coil. Three of the spade terminals are the same size, 7, 15, & 16. The spade terminal marked no: 3 is a little smaller, presumably for correct orientation. Does anyone out there have any information that may assist me in working out how to hook this ignitor up to my 4K reluctor distributor. Maybe a wiring diagram of a 4KE showing the external ignitor terminal numbers ? Any assistance you can provide would be greatly appreciated. If it works out OK, I have access to lots of these ignitor modules brand new very cheap, from an eBayer, but first I have to get this one going. :D

Claire, I note in another thread I can across that Mr Revhead posted on the 2nd February that you were considering upping the compression ratio on your 4K by possibly putting on a 3K head. I think a little homework here might pay off here. From the picture you posted earlier in this thread, the pistons you have are "D" shaped dished pistons. That makes your 4K probably a 4K-U, which was different to other 4K series engines, which basically have flat topped pistons. To compensate for the larger swept volume of the dished pistions in the 4K-U the head is also different to other 4K series engines. The "Heron head on the 4K-U has a different combustion chamber shape and depth to keep the compression ratio correct & better gas flow. The head itself is about 4-5mm deeper than a standard 4K head, and has head bolts & pushrods that are again about 5mm longer than those on standard 4K engines. The problem is that if you plop a 3K head on top of your 4K-U with dished pistons you'll probably have more than a little compression increase. As someone else has calculated, when I matched a Heron head from a 4K-U with flat top pistons on a std 4K-C, the compression ratio would prbably be about 15 or 16:1. The same result would occur if you place a 3K head on top of dished pistons. The larger swept volume of the cylinder compressed into a smaller combustion chamber in the head would probably finish up with a compression ratio that would be undrivable. Someone might be able to correct me, but I think my theory is correct. Someone else might have tried a 3K head on a 4K-U block with dished pistons: so I'd be glad to be corrected. As the Heron head is 5mm thicker through, it should take a nice surface grind, which should give you the extra compression you require. I'm doing up a 4K-U also at present, and I am sending my "Heron" head off next week for a overhaul & shave. =)

Thanks Kangaroosa. Should be able to get it going tomorrow with that info. Many thanks ! =)

Picked up a 5K electronic dizzy on ebay recently for just $ 50.00 in excellent condition. It is a Nippon Denso unit with 5K-C on the Toyota label on it. It is the electronic dizzy with the ignitor built-in. The plug to it has only two connections. One presumably goes to +12V ignition & the other to the +ve side of the coil. One wire is black with a red stripe on it, the other is black only. I presume the red stripe is +12V ignition & the black one goes to the coil. Can any one confirm, who has a 5K wiring diagram, showing the electronic dizzy connections ? Does anyone know of the original 5K coil primary resistance specs ? What other low resistance primary electronic coils has anyone else used sucessfully with the 5K-C electronic dizzy ? Any insight by those who have trod this path before, would be of great assistance. :P

Fook, the yellow will contrast nicely in the engine test bay stand I built & painted matt black. Will post a picture when it's all mounted up in the test stand. Claire, I like the more refined blue you have painted your 4K-U. Very nice ! Did you brush paint it ? I find it quicker to spray, as there are so many little nooks & crannies. Actually, if I remember rightly, a lot of early Nissan / Datsun engines came out painted in a blue like that, standard. Anyone remember. As an aside. Compare how many Datsuns of a similar vintage there are on the roads compared to KE series Corollas. Not many eh ! Might be a few more in N.Z. Claire's country mates tend to keep their cars a little longer than Australia. Current figures are that the average age of all cars in Australia is 11 years. Average age in N.Z. is somewhere between 15-16 years. Amazing statistics eh ! Happy Corollaing ! :P

Here's another shot of them there "D" 4K pistons :dance:

Opphs ! I don't know what happened to the attached picture in the previous post. Here goes again ! :dance: