I understand what you guys are saying but where I am talking about is actually an overtaking zone and I do not attempt the overtake until I am well out of the corner and the road ahead is clear, I am also talking bout overtaking cars that are going under 80kph in the 80 zone. I didn't mean to make it sound like I was driving like a maniac, I just meant that I needed a run up to be able to overtake on the up hill. I may not have worded it the way I should have and I am quite young so I'm not saying that i don't like the odd bit of "hooning" but thats not what i was trying to portray above. If I ever end up getting another rolla on the road and attend a cruise I can assure you that no such antics will be performed by me. Hope this clears it up a bit...